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many times in the history of our

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civilization the introduction of a new

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thought has brought skepticism

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even ridiculed despite this

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there always has remained the duty and

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inalienable right to tell the people the

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truth

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the motion picture you were about to see

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is true

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it is not fiction much of the

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information in it has never been told

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on july 29 1952 at the pentagon

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a press conference was held

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this is the actual official transcript

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of that conference

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among those participating were major

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general roger m

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raymie director of operations usaf

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colonel donald l bauer technical

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analysis division

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air technical intelligence center and

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captain edward j rupault aerial

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phenomenon branch

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air technical intelligence center

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this is major general john a samford

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director of intelligence

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united states air force who conducted

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why was the conference held it all began

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with an incident which occurred in 1947

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on the afternoon of june 24th of that

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year kenneth arnold made the first

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report on flying saucers

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on this day arnold took off from

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chihalas washington

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and flew toward the rainier plateau at

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an elevation between nine and ten

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thousand feet

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over mineral washington he observed a

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formation of very bright objects to the

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north

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he radioed ahead that they appeared to

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be close to the mountain tops and

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when arnold came in for a landing at

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pendleton airport personnel

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arnold counted nine objects in echelon

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formation

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he observed that they had no tails and

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described them as

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saucer-shaped objects the story was

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picked up by the wire services

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he saw what in the next 24 hours

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virtually every newspaper in the country

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the arnold report precipitated an

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avalanche of sightings from cities

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towns villages from every section of the

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the commercial aspects of the saucer

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situation were not overlooked

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alert businessmen and manufacturers came

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up with all sorts of oddities

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the practical joker moved in homemade

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saucers of all kinds and descriptions

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began to turn up promiscuously

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within a few months of the original

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salsa report practically everyone in

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america was conscious of

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flying saucers this man in the saucer

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well sir he was small and skinny

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he had his head was pointed came to a

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sharp point he had long green hair

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his eyes were sort of purplish red

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he had large ears which were formed like

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an antenna

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his teeth were perfect but spread

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far apart and i noticed too

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glass and bright red but calicus

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you say this all took place in a few

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seconds mr nagel schmidt can you tell me

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what color tie i'm wearing

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i'm sorry sir i didn't notice

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you mean to say you can remember

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everything about this man from the

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spaceship his hair the color of his eyes

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the clothing he was wearing

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and yet after all this time you can't

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tell me the color of my tie

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but you didn't come out of a flying

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then at approximately 1400 on january 7

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1948 the kentucky state police reported

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that they had cited an unusual aircraft

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or object

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flying through the air circular in

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knox called the commanding officer at

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godman air force base

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our flight service at right field

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determine if they have any experimental

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we have a report of an unidentified

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controller in the godman tower received

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his instructions from the commanding

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instructions to a light plane which was

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captain hopper flight service

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flight service is a clearing house the

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positions of all military planes are

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on their position course

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altitude and speed flight service to

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tower we have no experimental aircraft

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photo mission in that area

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in the meantime lieutenant cowan the

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upon hearing the information from flight

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service the executive officer called

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the tower controller saw an object south

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of godman field and directed it to the

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lieutenant cowan was the first of the

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group after the tower controller to

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he immediately directed it to the

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attention of the operations officer

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after observing it for a moment he

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picked up a telephone and put in a

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second call to the commanding officer

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it was now about 14 20. about 14

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30 a flight of four f-51s being ferried

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the commanding officer issued an order

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to contact the flight leader

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that will be and find out who's leading

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the flight

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rather tower the leader of flight 451

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brandon power the leader of flight 451

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parts 210 degrees

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piloted by lieutenant hendrix requested

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permission to land at stanford field to

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refuel and get oxygen

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permission was granted captain mantel

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and the other two planes started to

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climb toward the object

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the second pilot made a similar request

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climbing

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out distancing his wingmen at 14

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45 mantel called the tower

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mantel to tower i see it

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above and ahead of me i'm still climbing

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a few moments later one of mantel's

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wingmen was hurt

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after a moment captain mantell made a

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reply man tell the tower

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the object is directly ahead of and

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above me now moving at half my speed

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diamond power the leader of flight 451

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power the leader of flight 451

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come in nineteen tower it appears to be

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a metallic

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object of tremendous size

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the object now was in visual view of the

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tower personnel

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man tells the tower i'm trying to close

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in for a better look

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i'll go to twenty thousand feet shortly

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after this

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pilot hammond the remaining wingman with

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mantel called mantel over his radio

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the personnel in godman tower waited

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tensely for mantel's reply but he made

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no answer

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a moment later pilot hammond made

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another report to the tower

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mantel seemed to have disappeared mantel

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had apparently climbed beyond his

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wingman

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the object which was in visual sight

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from the tower as were the f51s

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during the chase disappeared at

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the f-51s were first lost to view and

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then the object went behind the cloud

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this is badly to captain mantell

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come in at 17 50 stanford advised godman

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tower that mantel had crashed five miles

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the crash had occurred at approximately

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captain mantell was killed

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statements were taken from all who were

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present in the tower during the mantel

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the tower controller stated it looked

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silver or metallic

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the intelligence officer it appeared to

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be a bright silver object

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the executive officer it was circular in

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shape

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the aacs a small white object in the sky

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the operations officer it appeared brown

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and white

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the commanding officer it could be seen

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plainly with the naked eye

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the statements were typed up for the

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necessary signatures as the

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interrogation concluded

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there was one point on which there was

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some disagreement not everyone who had

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been present in the tower had heard

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mantel when he reported over the radio

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the more lured sections of the press

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reported that fragments of mantel's

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plane were found to be radioactive some

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news sources reported that an autopsy

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revealed that mantel had been killed by

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some kind of death ray

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unknown to our men of science these

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reports were false

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because certain publications persisted

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in using a sensational

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approach in reporting sightings there

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were increasing demands from the public

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for an explanation

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however the air force had already taken

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official cognizance

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of the flying discs headquarters united

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states air forces issued a directive

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for a detailed study of flying disk

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reports

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this project received a secret

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classification

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and the code name of sign

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department of air force and department

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of army letters directed all respective

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subordinate units

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to report directly to air material

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command all

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information concerning unidentified

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and so project sign was implemented

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trained investigators were dispatched to

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the exact scenes of the sightings

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after thorough on-the-spot

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interrogations the reports were sent on

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to atic for further analysis

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utah washington

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norway sweden denmark

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as an example of the credible type of

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sightings reported by reputable

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trained observers was the report of

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captain

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willis sperry what is your full name

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captain

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american airlines

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17 years what was the date of sighting

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may the 29th

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1950 and the time of sighting 9

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30 in the evening the origin of sighting

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60 miles

301
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southwest of washington dc and the

302
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destination

303
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nashville tennessee what was the

304
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visibility it was unlimited

305
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what was your altitude 7 500 feet

306
00:16:03,030 --> 00:16:00,800
who of the crew first saw the object the

307
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co-pilot called it to my attention

308
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as i had turned to reach for a map the

309
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object was flying head on at us

310
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it was 50 times the magnitude of the

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brightest star

312
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i immediately made an abrupt turn to

313
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avoid collision

314
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as i looked to my left the object

315
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appeared to come to a stop

316
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can you describe the shape of the object

317
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it appeared as a perfectly streamlined

318
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object without wings or tail

319
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section as it was silhouetted against

320
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the full moon

321
00:16:35,350 --> 00:16:33,199
at all times it had a brilliant

322
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shimmering blue light in the nose

323
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it was traveling at fantastic speed and

324
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although it had passed off our left wing

325
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tip

326
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it circled us in a matter of seconds and

327
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appeared off our right wing

328
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there again it stopped and we watched it

329
00:16:52,389 --> 00:16:50,000
for several seconds

330
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when again it started it reversed its

331
00:16:55,189 --> 00:16:53,199
direction

332
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we watched it for several more seconds

333
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until it disappeared

334
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in the east out of sight have you ever

335
00:17:08,549 --> 00:17:01,279
seen any other similar object captain

336
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on january 9 1950 the press reported

337
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that project

338
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sign was closed from now on the air

339
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force stated it's only similar activity

340
00:17:21,350 --> 00:17:18,880
would be the routine

341
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conventional watch for unidentified

342
00:17:27,510 --> 00:17:26,549
this is the daily news building in

343
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dayton ohio

344
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[Music]

345
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a short time after my discharge from the

346
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marine corps

347
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i paid a visit to the newspaper where i

348
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had previously worked as a reporter for

349
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well al you rascal glad to see you

350
00:17:53,830 --> 00:17:51,840
the editor was a close friend and he

351
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tried to convince me to take back my old

352
00:17:57,909 --> 00:17:55,360
job on the paper

353
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he was very persuasive but for personal

354
00:18:01,190 --> 00:17:58,480
reasons

355
00:18:02,789 --> 00:18:01,200
it didn't interest me oh but you

356
00:18:05,029 --> 00:18:02,799
remember the old days here

357
00:18:07,430 --> 00:18:05,039
now it's all different three hours for

358
00:18:10,230 --> 00:18:07,440
lunch double time for overtime

359
00:18:11,830 --> 00:18:10,240
blonde copy girls once he realized that

360
00:18:14,630 --> 00:18:11,840
my mind was made up

361
00:18:16,310 --> 00:18:14,640
he made another suggestion it was due to

362
00:18:17,750 --> 00:18:16,320
this casual suggestion that i walked

363
00:18:19,830 --> 00:18:17,760
right into the middle of the flying

364
00:18:22,630 --> 00:18:19,840
saucer story

365
00:18:24,549 --> 00:18:22,640
ever since a korean situation there's a

366
00:18:25,350 --> 00:18:24,559
lot of activity out at air material

367
00:18:26,950 --> 00:18:25,360
command

368
00:18:28,950 --> 00:18:26,960
you could fit right in that public

369
00:18:30,789 --> 00:18:28,960
information officer

370
00:18:32,470 --> 00:18:30,799
who's the man to see out there friend of

371
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mine major cross

372
00:18:36,310 --> 00:18:35,440
i'll call him now the idea appealed to

373
00:18:38,150 --> 00:18:36,320
me

374
00:18:39,669 --> 00:18:38,160
i'd always been intensely interested in

375
00:18:41,830 --> 00:18:39,679
aviation

376
00:18:43,350 --> 00:18:41,840
also i like the idea of settling down in

377
00:18:45,510 --> 00:18:43,360
dayton again

378
00:18:47,029 --> 00:18:45,520
both d my wife and i had a lot of

379
00:18:49,909 --> 00:18:47,039
friends there

380
00:18:51,669 --> 00:18:49,919
it would be like coming home again the

381
00:18:54,950 --> 00:18:51,679
editor set up an appointment for me

382
00:18:55,990 --> 00:18:54,960
at air material command this is what i

383
00:18:57,830 --> 00:18:56,000
wanted

384
00:19:00,390 --> 00:18:57,840
but a man never knows what he's getting

385
00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:02,390
the next day i went out to amc and

386
00:19:06,150 --> 00:19:04,240
talked to the major

387
00:19:07,830 --> 00:19:06,160
he seemed satisfied with my newspaper

388
00:19:09,430 --> 00:19:07,840
background

389
00:19:11,110 --> 00:19:09,440
i was interviewed by a personnel

390
00:19:13,029 --> 00:19:11,120
official who filled out the necessary

391
00:19:15,510 --> 00:19:13,039
papers preliminary to an air force

392
00:19:23,190 --> 00:19:15,520
security check

393
00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:27,110
age 35

394
00:19:34,310 --> 00:19:30,630
married wife's name

395
00:19:43,430 --> 00:19:34,320
dolores children

396
00:19:49,350 --> 00:19:46,630
take us to room d thank you

397
00:19:53,029 --> 00:19:49,360
shortly after i went on the amc payroll

398
00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:53,039
on the pio desk

399
00:19:57,270 --> 00:19:54,960
i soon shook down into the routine of

400
00:19:59,029 --> 00:19:57,280
the public information desk

401
00:20:01,510 --> 00:19:59,039
there was a wide diversification of

402
00:20:03,270 --> 00:20:01,520
projects for which i wrote material

403
00:20:05,190 --> 00:20:03,280
most of it was released as newspaper

404
00:20:06,700 --> 00:20:05,200
copy with an occasional article

405
00:20:08,390 --> 00:20:06,710
published in the magazines

406
00:20:10,070 --> 00:20:08,400
[Music]

407
00:20:11,669 --> 00:20:10,080
i wrote a piece on a portable printing

408
00:20:13,110 --> 00:20:11,679
press that could be set up close to the

409
00:20:14,950 --> 00:20:13,120
front line

410
00:20:16,390 --> 00:20:14,960
these presses printed daily bulletins

411
00:20:19,190 --> 00:20:16,400
which proved of great value in

412
00:20:21,350 --> 00:20:19,200
sustaining morale of frontline troops

413
00:20:23,909 --> 00:20:21,360
i did a few pieces on helicopters which

414
00:20:26,149 --> 00:20:23,919
were coming into wide use in korea

415
00:20:27,669 --> 00:20:26,159
newsweek magazine printed this and it

416
00:20:29,669 --> 00:20:27,679
also appeared in many of the country's

417
00:20:32,310 --> 00:20:29,679
leading newspapers

418
00:20:33,990 --> 00:20:32,320
then one morning about ten o'clock i got

419
00:20:36,470 --> 00:20:34,000
a call from a newspaper editor in

420
00:20:37,270 --> 00:20:36,480
boston the boston editor wanted

421
00:20:39,750 --> 00:20:37,280
confirmation

422
00:20:42,789 --> 00:20:39,760
or official information on a flying

423
00:20:44,789 --> 00:20:42,799
saucer report out of sioux city iowa

424
00:20:46,789 --> 00:20:44,799
i told the editor that project sign had

425
00:20:49,669 --> 00:20:46,799
been officially closed

426
00:20:55,270 --> 00:20:49,679
he was insistent so finally i called air

427
00:20:58,710 --> 00:20:57,270
no chop we have no report on sioux city

428
00:21:00,470 --> 00:20:58,720
or any other sighting

429
00:21:04,310 --> 00:21:00,480
you people on pio desk ought to know

430
00:21:14,950 --> 00:21:06,310
for the next couple of hours calls came

431
00:21:19,270 --> 00:21:17,190
gradually i was able to piece the story

432
00:21:21,669 --> 00:21:19,280
together

433
00:21:22,950 --> 00:21:21,679
on the previous evening a commercial

434
00:21:25,190 --> 00:21:22,960
airline dc-3

435
00:21:28,230 --> 00:21:25,200
in sioux city iowa had requested

436
00:21:30,070 --> 00:21:28,240
clearance from the tower to take off

437
00:21:31,909 --> 00:21:30,080
the tower held them up informing the

438
00:21:34,230 --> 00:21:31,919
pilot that there was a light in the west

439
00:21:35,909 --> 00:21:34,240
that they thought might be a light plane

440
00:21:36,950 --> 00:21:35,919
the tower stated that they were trying

441
00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:36,960
to contact it

442
00:21:41,270 --> 00:21:39,600
but were unsuccessful the tower was in

443
00:21:43,350 --> 00:21:41,280
contact with another light flame that

444
00:21:46,789 --> 00:21:43,360
was coming in for a landing

445
00:21:48,470 --> 00:21:46,799
the dc-3 engine's idling stood by at the

446
00:21:50,950 --> 00:21:48,480
end of the runway until the light plane

447
00:21:53,029 --> 00:21:50,960
landed and taxied off the strip

448
00:22:09,750 --> 00:21:53,039
the tower then gave the dc-3 pilot

449
00:22:15,350 --> 00:22:12,390
as the dc-3 climb for altitude an

450
00:22:16,870 --> 00:22:15,360
unidentified light suddenly closed in

451
00:22:18,870 --> 00:22:16,880
this was the object that the tower

452
00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:18,880
unsuccessfully had tried to contact by

453
00:22:24,149 --> 00:22:20,000
radio

454
00:22:27,430 --> 00:22:24,159
dc-3 but the light had already been

455
00:22:29,110 --> 00:22:27,440
observed by both the pilot and co-pilot

456
00:22:30,549 --> 00:22:29,120
suddenly the light accelerated and made

457
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:30,559
a head-on pass at the plane

458
00:22:35,750 --> 00:22:33,210
which swerved to avoid a collision

459
00:22:37,669 --> 00:22:35,760
[Music]

460
00:22:38,789 --> 00:22:37,679
it zoomed past them close to their

461
00:22:40,549 --> 00:22:38,799
wingtip

462
00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:40,559
the pilot called the tower and described

463
00:22:45,350 --> 00:22:43,919
the object as a p-36 without wings

464
00:22:47,669 --> 00:22:45,360
after being observed by several

465
00:22:48,310 --> 00:22:47,679
passengers the object suddenly zoomed

466
00:22:52,390 --> 00:22:48,320
straight up

467
00:22:56,950 --> 00:22:55,270
about noon two reporters came in asking

468
00:22:58,710 --> 00:22:56,960
for information on the sioux city

469
00:23:00,789 --> 00:22:58,720
sighting

470
00:23:01,990 --> 00:23:00,799
what's new on this saucer story al we

471
00:23:04,710 --> 00:23:02,000
have nothing on it

472
00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:04,720
project sign is closed atic is no longer

473
00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:06,400
investigating these things

474
00:23:10,149 --> 00:23:08,480
how stupid can they get how can they

475
00:23:11,909 --> 00:23:10,159
drop an investigation when there are

476
00:23:12,549 --> 00:23:11,919
things going on like this sioux city

477
00:23:14,789 --> 00:23:12,559
incident

478
00:23:16,470 --> 00:23:14,799
look george i don't make policy around

479
00:23:18,310 --> 00:23:16,480
here i've got a job

480
00:23:20,789 --> 00:23:18,320
and i take my order just like everybody

481
00:23:21,990 --> 00:23:20,799
else they insisted i make another call

482
00:23:26,070 --> 00:23:22,000
for verification with

483
00:23:27,430 --> 00:23:26,080
atic i indicated to one of the reporters

484
00:23:30,630 --> 00:23:27,440
to pick up the extension

485
00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:30,640
and listen in so he too could hear yeah

486
00:23:34,310 --> 00:23:32,159
hello major

487
00:23:36,070 --> 00:23:34,320
i'll chop a couple of reporters here

488
00:23:37,990 --> 00:23:36,080
want some information on sioux city

489
00:23:41,110 --> 00:23:38,000
look al the answer is the same the

490
00:23:45,269 --> 00:23:41,120
project is closed i told you that before

491
00:23:48,070 --> 00:23:45,279
yeah thanks major you heard the man

492
00:23:49,669 --> 00:23:48,080
this thing doesn't add up those men saw

493
00:23:51,029 --> 00:23:49,679
something up there

494
00:23:53,430 --> 00:23:51,039
oh there's probably some simple

495
00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:53,440
explanation for it don't tell me you

496
00:23:58,310 --> 00:23:55,360
guys believe this saucer bunk

497
00:23:59,590 --> 00:23:58,320
you're just sitting on a story al well

498
00:24:01,669 --> 00:23:59,600
you believe what you like

499
00:24:02,830 --> 00:24:01,679
but personally i think this whole saucer

500
00:24:05,990 --> 00:24:02,840
business is pure

501
00:24:07,269 --> 00:24:06,000
unadulterated funk one day shortly after

502
00:24:09,510 --> 00:24:07,279
the sioux city incident

503
00:24:11,269 --> 00:24:09,520
i went over to get a story on a former

504
00:24:14,870 --> 00:24:11,279
german scientist

505
00:24:18,310 --> 00:24:14,880
area b was a maximum security section

506
00:24:19,909 --> 00:24:18,320
the story appeared in the new york times

507
00:24:21,669 --> 00:24:19,919
i had obtained the background on the

508
00:24:23,510 --> 00:24:21,679
scientists from the files

509
00:24:24,950 --> 00:24:23,520
he was formerly one of the top men at

510
00:24:26,710 --> 00:24:24,960
pineamon germany

511
00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:26,720
one of the key figures participating in

512
00:24:30,310 --> 00:24:28,720
the successful development of the v2

513
00:24:31,830 --> 00:24:30,320
rocket

514
00:24:34,149 --> 00:24:31,840
this scientist had succeeded in

515
00:24:37,269 --> 00:24:34,159
developing a 98.8

516
00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:37,279
pure aluminum oxide these crucibles were

517
00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:39,360
vital to our nation's defense

518
00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:41,440
they were used to melt super hard metals

519
00:24:45,190 --> 00:24:43,200
needed to build turbine blades for our

520
00:24:48,789 --> 00:24:45,200
jet aircraft

521
00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:48,799
tell me young man what new reports are

522
00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:49,840
you getting

523
00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:52,960
on unidentified flying objects

524
00:24:57,190 --> 00:24:55,440
flying saucers oh they keep coming in

525
00:24:58,630 --> 00:24:57,200
every once in a while but we don't take

526
00:25:02,149 --> 00:24:58,640
them too seriously

527
00:25:03,909 --> 00:25:02,159
oh no of course not it must be amusing

528
00:25:06,070 --> 00:25:03,919
to a man in your line of work to hear

529
00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:06,080
about all these screwball reports

530
00:25:13,549 --> 00:25:10,080
it is my firm opinion that these

531
00:25:15,269 --> 00:25:13,559
sightings should be investigated most

532
00:25:16,710 --> 00:25:15,279
meticulously

533
00:25:18,630 --> 00:25:16,720
you don't believe that these flying

534
00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:18,640
saucers actually exist to you

535
00:25:24,310 --> 00:25:22,320
and how can you be so certain they don't

536
00:25:25,590 --> 00:25:24,320
miss the chop well i i just don't

537
00:25:30,070 --> 00:25:25,600
believe it

538
00:25:34,070 --> 00:25:30,080
our minds should be open on all subjects

539
00:25:37,909 --> 00:25:34,080
wrong conclusions are usually the result

540
00:25:41,269 --> 00:25:37,919
of lack of comprehensive analysis

541
00:25:43,510 --> 00:25:41,279
of course well thank you doctor

542
00:25:45,029 --> 00:25:43,520
i won't take up any more of your time

543
00:25:46,070 --> 00:25:45,039
and i'll let you read the article before

544
00:25:48,549 --> 00:25:46,080
i send it in

545
00:25:52,860 --> 00:25:48,559
thank you mr chop i'll be looking

546
00:25:57,510 --> 00:25:54,950
[Applause]

547
00:25:59,510 --> 00:25:57,520
later that same day i paid a visit to

548
00:26:01,430 --> 00:25:59,520
the public information officer for air

549
00:26:03,110 --> 00:26:01,440
materiel command

550
00:26:04,870 --> 00:26:03,120
it was his job to know everything that

551
00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:04,880
was going on

552
00:26:08,549 --> 00:26:06,400
i brought up my interview with the

553
00:26:09,029 --> 00:26:08,559
scientist he's the top man isn't he

554
00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:09,039
colonel

555
00:26:12,230 --> 00:26:10,960
as good as they come we got on the

556
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:12,240
subject of saucers

557
00:26:16,230 --> 00:26:13,679
he seemed to lend credence to their

558
00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:16,240
existence at least he doesn't deny it

559
00:26:19,669 --> 00:26:18,320
well he's not alone in that opinion i

560
00:26:21,190 --> 00:26:19,679
don't understand colonel

561
00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:21,200
but crack scientists think they could

562
00:26:31,029 --> 00:26:29,029
al i'm gonna let you in on something

563
00:26:31,669 --> 00:26:31,039
somehow security was breached on the

564
00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:31,679
code name

565
00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:34,559
sign every news agency knew that project

566
00:26:38,310 --> 00:26:36,240
sign meant saucers

567
00:26:39,830 --> 00:26:38,320
on top of it we were up to our bustling

568
00:26:42,149 --> 00:26:39,840
screwball reports

569
00:26:43,990 --> 00:26:42,159
serious investigation was all fouled up

570
00:26:45,430 --> 00:26:44,000
the serious investigation then the air

571
00:26:46,390 --> 00:26:45,440
force is still investigating these

572
00:26:48,070 --> 00:26:46,400
sightings

573
00:26:50,630 --> 00:26:48,080
we switched the code name to project

574
00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:50,640
grudge and the investigations continued

575
00:26:54,230 --> 00:26:52,080
and what have they shown nothing

576
00:26:56,470 --> 00:26:54,240
conclusive is yet could these sausages

577
00:26:59,110 --> 00:26:56,480
be some kind of a secret weapon of ours

578
00:27:00,310 --> 00:26:59,120
no if they were air material command

579
00:27:01,669 --> 00:27:00,320
would be the first to know

580
00:27:04,470 --> 00:27:01,679
how about a device from a foreign

581
00:27:07,029 --> 00:27:04,480
country we know they're not

582
00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:07,039
what is your opinion colonel i don't

583
00:27:11,110 --> 00:27:09,279
have any opinion now

584
00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:11,120
a short time later i was promoted to

585
00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:12,559
chief of the press section

586
00:27:15,830 --> 00:27:14,240
from then on there wasn't a moment when

587
00:27:17,750 --> 00:27:15,840
i didn't have at least one reporter

588
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:17,760
hounding me for information on saucer

589
00:27:21,190 --> 00:27:19,440
sightings

590
00:27:23,350 --> 00:27:21,200
got a question al boys down at the

591
00:27:25,430 --> 00:27:23,360
office would like an honest answer

592
00:27:26,630 --> 00:27:25,440
project sign is closed right that's

593
00:27:28,389 --> 00:27:26,640
right

594
00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:28,399
has the air force set up a new saucer

595
00:27:36,630 --> 00:27:30,240
investigation

596
00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:38,470
coming here right away y'all ring pencil

597
00:27:45,029 --> 00:27:43,269
blind three colonel goddard's on the

598
00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:45,039
phone he's got a hot ufo report

599
00:27:49,590 --> 00:27:47,520
i want you to listen in on it okay

600
00:27:51,430 --> 00:27:49,600
colonel shoot

601
00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:51,440
colonel goddard chief of the air force

602
00:27:55,350 --> 00:27:53,520
photo reconnaissance laboratories

603
00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:55,360
reported that three of his men flying a

604
00:27:58,710 --> 00:27:57,440
b-29 were tracking a weather balloon

605
00:28:00,710 --> 00:27:58,720
over georgia

606
00:28:02,070 --> 00:28:00,720
suddenly an unidentified flying object

607
00:28:04,470 --> 00:28:02,080
appeared and flew alongside

608
00:28:06,070 --> 00:28:04,480
the balloon after a few moments the

609
00:28:06,789 --> 00:28:06,080
object dived and made a pass at the

610
00:28:09,110 --> 00:28:06,799
balloon

611
00:28:10,950 --> 00:28:09,120
then proceeded to disappear when the

612
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:10,960
balloon was recovered it had a six foot

613
00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:12,000
rent in it

614
00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:13,440
colonel goddard's men believed this

615
00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:15,520
unidentified flying object made the tear

616
00:28:18,549 --> 00:28:16,799
in the balloon

617
00:28:20,630 --> 00:28:18,559
goddard vouched for his men making the

618
00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:20,640
report stating that they were highly

619
00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:22,480
experienced and reliable air force

620
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:28,549
thank you colonel

621
00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:31,029
think it could be a lightning bolt

622
00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:32,480
goddard wouldn't call about a lightning

623
00:28:35,590 --> 00:28:33,120
bolt

624
00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:35,600
didn't any of his men have a camera no

625
00:28:39,190 --> 00:28:37,600
they were tracking it with binoculars

626
00:28:40,549 --> 00:28:39,200
that's something i don't get colonel

627
00:28:41,909 --> 00:28:40,559
wouldn't you think that somebody

628
00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:41,919
somewhere would have shot a picture of

629
00:28:46,070 --> 00:28:44,000
one of these things

630
00:28:47,909 --> 00:28:46,080
oh we've got plenty of photographs but

631
00:28:49,990 --> 00:28:47,919
the trouble with still pictures is

632
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:50,000
they're too easily faked what about a

633
00:28:54,470 --> 00:28:52,240
motion picture could that be fake

634
00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:54,480
trick shots are possible but not without

635
00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:56,320
complicated and expensive laboratory

636
00:28:59,590 --> 00:28:57,120
equipment

637
00:29:01,430 --> 00:28:59,600
highly skilled men even then motion

638
00:29:01,909 --> 00:29:01,440
picture experts could easily determine

639
00:29:03,669 --> 00:29:01,919
face

640
00:29:05,110 --> 00:29:03,679
that eliminates some joker faking a

641
00:29:05,909 --> 00:29:05,120
piece of motion picture film in his

642
00:29:07,510 --> 00:29:05,919
garage

643
00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:07,520
he'd practically impossible get away

644
00:29:11,190 --> 00:29:09,520
with that well

645
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:11,200
i guess that's why you have no movies of

646
00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:13,250
them colonel

647
00:29:20,389 --> 00:29:19,590
as chief of the press desk my work hours

648
00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:20,399
my meals

649
00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:22,960
my sleep became increasingly disturbed

650
00:29:26,710 --> 00:29:24,320
and chaotic

651
00:29:27,750 --> 00:29:26,720
i saw little of my wife and children

652
00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:27,760
chip my son

653
00:29:31,909 --> 00:29:30,000
was at this time making periodic visits

654
00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:31,919
to a doctor in dayton

655
00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:34,720
how's chip i feel more hopeful with a

656
00:29:38,870 --> 00:29:36,640
new specialist

657
00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:38,880
you look tired since you've gotten this

658
00:29:41,430 --> 00:29:40,320
new job the children don't know their

659
00:29:43,590 --> 00:29:41,440
own father anymore

660
00:29:44,789 --> 00:29:43,600
yeah sometimes i wish i were back on the

661
00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:44,799
newspaper

662
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:47,200
i was talking with mrs collins today she

663
00:29:51,029 --> 00:29:48,880
tells me her husband's cousin works with

664
00:29:53,190 --> 00:29:51,039
a man who swears he saw a flying saucer

665
00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:53,200
uh-uh i thought i told you that term was

666
00:29:56,310 --> 00:29:54,960
taboo in this house

667
00:29:58,070 --> 00:29:56,320
do you really think they might be from

668
00:29:59,590 --> 00:29:58,080
mars or someplace look honey

669
00:30:01,350 --> 00:29:59,600
don't you get like the rest of those

670
00:30:02,070 --> 00:30:01,360
screwballs that i have in my hair all

671
00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:02,080
day

672
00:30:06,630 --> 00:30:04,480
every time some kid flies a kite 50

673
00:30:09,110 --> 00:30:06,640
different people see spaceships come on

674
00:30:11,190 --> 00:30:09,120
let's get to bed

675
00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:11,200
a few days later the colonel and i were

676
00:30:15,110 --> 00:30:13,120
talking over routine press releases on a

677
00:30:16,789 --> 00:30:15,120
new type transport plane

678
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:16,799
when suddenly the colonel veered off at

679
00:30:20,470 --> 00:30:18,480
a tangent

680
00:30:21,990 --> 00:30:20,480
by the way there's a magazine fella

681
00:30:23,669 --> 00:30:22,000
coming out here from new york to do

682
00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:23,679
a story i want you to set up

683
00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:24,960
appointments with the people you'll want

684
00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:25,919
to see

685
00:30:29,029 --> 00:30:28,240
right what magazine is you representing

686
00:30:31,029 --> 00:30:29,039
life

687
00:30:32,710 --> 00:30:31,039
what are they after he's going to write

688
00:30:34,470 --> 00:30:32,720
a piece about unidentified flying

689
00:30:36,950 --> 00:30:34,480
objects

690
00:30:38,710 --> 00:30:36,960
are you serious life was given clearance

691
00:30:41,750 --> 00:30:38,720
by the air force commanding general

692
00:30:45,830 --> 00:30:43,830
when the general staff makes a plan they

693
00:30:47,669 --> 00:30:45,840
have the whole picture in view

694
00:30:49,110 --> 00:30:47,679
we here at dayton see only a smaller

695
00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:49,120
section

696
00:30:52,870 --> 00:30:51,600
pentagon has its reasons very good ones

697
00:30:54,710 --> 00:30:52,880
most likely

698
00:30:56,070 --> 00:30:54,720
when the life story breaks we're going

699
00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:56,080
to have to fight our way in here through

700
00:31:03,269 --> 00:30:58,559
a milling mob of inquisitive reporters

701
00:31:06,789 --> 00:31:05,110
colonel cyril's on the pentagon has

702
00:31:08,389 --> 00:31:06,799
requested you by name

703
00:31:10,710 --> 00:31:08,399
he wants you to join his staff in

704
00:31:13,669 --> 00:31:10,720
washington

705
00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:13,679
colonel it's been swell working with you

706
00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:15,360
but under the circumstances

707
00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:27,269
upon my arrival in washington i was

708
00:31:32,549 --> 00:31:29,200
assigned to air force press desk

709
00:31:35,110 --> 00:31:32,559
room 2e 765 in the pentagon

710
00:31:36,789 --> 00:31:35,120
my last official act at amc had been to

711
00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:36,799
arrange the conferences and briefings

712
00:31:40,549 --> 00:31:38,640
for life magazine

713
00:31:42,470 --> 00:31:40,559
i was in washington only a short time

714
00:31:44,830 --> 00:31:42,480
when look magazine submitted the galley

715
00:31:47,350 --> 00:31:44,840
proofs of their saucer article to my

716
00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:47,360
desk i put the look article through to

717
00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:49,360
security review

718
00:31:53,029 --> 00:31:51,600
now i felt free to settle down in my new

719
00:31:54,789 --> 00:31:53,039
job

720
00:31:56,549 --> 00:31:54,799
i checked in with the press section of

721
00:31:58,310 --> 00:31:56,559
the united states senate

722
00:32:00,470 --> 00:31:58,320
house of representatives and department

723
00:32:02,149 --> 00:32:00,480
of state

724
00:32:04,310 --> 00:32:02,159
i paid the required visits to the

725
00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:04,320
information departments of the army navy

726
00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:06,000
and marine corps

727
00:32:09,190 --> 00:32:07,440
i covered the civil aeronautics

728
00:32:12,070 --> 00:32:09,200
administration and other agencies with

729
00:32:13,750 --> 00:32:12,080
whom i would be working in close contact

730
00:32:15,990 --> 00:32:13,760
by now i figured i was through with

731
00:32:19,029 --> 00:32:16,000
flying saucers for good

732
00:32:20,950 --> 00:32:19,039
but the pentagon had other ideas because

733
00:32:23,509 --> 00:32:20,960
of my previous experience

734
00:32:24,789 --> 00:32:23,519
i was assigned to unidentified flying

735
00:32:28,549 --> 00:32:24,799
objects

736
00:32:29,909 --> 00:32:28,559
i was back in the flying saucer business

737
00:32:31,830 --> 00:32:29,919
in the activity of setting up

738
00:32:32,950 --> 00:32:31,840
housekeeping and getting adjusted to the

739
00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:32,960
new job

740
00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:34,480
i completely forgot about the life

741
00:32:38,389 --> 00:32:36,240
magazine article

742
00:32:39,509 --> 00:32:38,399
also i was able to spend more time with

743
00:32:41,430 --> 00:32:39,519
chip

744
00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:41,440
my son had been deaf in one ear since

745
00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:43,840
infancy and it was difficult for him to

746
00:32:47,669 --> 00:32:45,440
play with other children

747
00:32:48,549 --> 00:32:47,679
i had settled down to a regulated home

748
00:33:07,350 --> 00:32:48,559
life

749
00:33:27,750 --> 00:33:09,269
the question if anyone ever had any

750
00:33:32,149 --> 00:33:30,310
the public america as a whole had an

751
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:32,159
intense avid interest in the subject of

752
00:33:36,230 --> 00:33:34,480
flying saucers

753
00:33:38,070 --> 00:33:36,240
the first few days following the life

754
00:33:40,549 --> 00:33:38,080
story were chaotic

755
00:33:42,470 --> 00:33:40,559
naturally my desk was an exposed point

756
00:33:43,669 --> 00:33:42,480
and i was under an incessant barrage by

757
00:33:45,669 --> 00:33:43,679
newsmen

758
00:33:48,870 --> 00:33:45,679
shortly after the life story looks

759
00:33:52,310 --> 00:33:48,880
coverage of saucers hit the newsstand

760
00:33:53,909 --> 00:33:52,320
their story featured a saucer map

761
00:33:55,509 --> 00:33:53,919
including a statement by the commanding

762
00:33:59,590 --> 00:33:55,519
general u.s air force

763
00:34:01,269 --> 00:33:59,600
hoyt vandenberg vandenberg stated

764
00:34:02,789 --> 00:34:01,279
the air force is interested in anything

765
00:34:04,630 --> 00:34:02,799
that takes place in the air

766
00:34:07,269 --> 00:34:04,640
this includes the aerial phenomenon

767
00:34:08,629 --> 00:34:07,279
commonly known as flying saucers

768
00:34:10,869 --> 00:34:08,639
many of these incidents have been

769
00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:10,879
satisfactorily explained

770
00:34:18,869 --> 00:34:16,149
project grudge was expanded and

771
00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:18,879
augmented the classified name grudge was

772
00:34:23,109 --> 00:34:21,520
dropped the new code name for the ufo

773
00:34:25,990 --> 00:34:23,119
investigative project was

774
00:34:27,990 --> 00:34:26,000
blue book the general appointed captain

775
00:34:30,069 --> 00:34:28,000
edward j rupelt of atic

776
00:34:32,069 --> 00:34:30,079
at wright-patterson as officer in charge

777
00:34:33,829 --> 00:34:32,079
of project blue book

778
00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:33,839
group health department was designated

779
00:34:38,230 --> 00:34:35,440
as air phenomenon branch

780
00:34:39,829 --> 00:34:38,240
air technical intelligence at rupaul's

781
00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:39,839
disposal was a large staff of

782
00:34:43,990 --> 00:34:41,760
distinguished scientists both military

783
00:34:46,470 --> 00:34:44,000
and civilian

784
00:34:49,030 --> 00:34:46,480
one day major dewey fournette of current

785
00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:49,040
intelligence branch sent for me

786
00:34:53,669 --> 00:34:51,839
will you come in here a minute now major

787
00:34:56,069 --> 00:34:53,679
fornay was intelligence technical

788
00:35:00,230 --> 00:34:56,079
analyst and ufo monitor

789
00:35:01,430 --> 00:35:00,240
thanks captain al i just got a call from

790
00:35:03,349 --> 00:35:01,440
captain rupelt

791
00:35:05,430 --> 00:35:03,359
a navy photographer named newhouse has

792
00:35:08,390 --> 00:35:05,440
made a sighting near tremonton utah

793
00:35:09,670 --> 00:35:08,400
he got some ufos on film motion pictures

794
00:35:11,270 --> 00:35:09,680
motion pictures

795
00:35:13,270 --> 00:35:11,280
this film should prove interesting on a

796
00:35:16,069 --> 00:35:13,280
comparative basis comparative with what

797
00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:16,079
with the montana film atic's had it for

798
00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:17,520
some time over at dayton

799
00:35:21,430 --> 00:35:19,920
you mean atic has had motion pictures

800
00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:21,440
why wasn't i told about it

801
00:35:24,950 --> 00:35:23,680
you're being told about it now can i see

802
00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:24,960
these films

803
00:35:28,550 --> 00:35:26,880
root belt has the new house film it's

804
00:35:29,349 --> 00:35:28,560
back at dayton being processed and

805
00:35:31,750 --> 00:35:29,359
analyzed

806
00:35:32,870 --> 00:35:31,760
but i can show you the montana film this

807
00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:32,880
film was shot

808
00:35:37,589 --> 00:35:35,440
august the fifteenth nineteen fifty it

809
00:35:38,710 --> 00:35:37,599
was taken in great falls montana by nick

810
00:35:40,390 --> 00:35:38,720
mariana

811
00:35:42,550 --> 00:35:40,400
immediately after we were notified of

812
00:35:47,430 --> 00:35:42,560
the sighting we sent an intelligence man

813
00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:50,069
my name is nick mariana for the past six

814
00:35:53,589 --> 00:35:51,839
years i've been the general manager of a

815
00:35:55,109 --> 00:35:53,599
minor league baseball club called the

816
00:35:57,270 --> 00:35:55,119
electrics

817
00:35:59,829 --> 00:35:57,280
we play out of great falls montana and

818
00:36:03,829 --> 00:35:59,839
are a farm club of the brooklyn dodgers

819
00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:03,839
on august 15 1950 at legion ballpark in

820
00:36:07,589 --> 00:36:05,520
great falls montana

821
00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:07,599
after a couple of hours in the clubhouse

822
00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:09,280
office i went up into the grandstand to

823
00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:11,280
call the groundskeeper

824
00:36:14,710 --> 00:36:13,200
as i reached the top of the stairway i

825
00:36:17,270 --> 00:36:14,720
glanced northward to the tall

826
00:36:18,710 --> 00:36:17,280
anaconda copper company smokestack to

827
00:36:19,829 --> 00:36:18,720
check the direction of the wind from the

828
00:36:21,670 --> 00:36:19,839
white smoke

829
00:36:23,349 --> 00:36:21,680
force of habit i suppose because our

830
00:36:25,109 --> 00:36:23,359
outfielders use it as an indicator on

831
00:36:27,910 --> 00:36:25,119
defensive play

832
00:36:30,790 --> 00:36:27,920
as i looked up i saw two silvery objects

833
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:30,800
moving swiftly out of the northwest

834
00:36:33,910 --> 00:36:32,640
they appeared to be moving directly

835
00:36:35,829 --> 00:36:33,920
south

836
00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:35,839
the objects were very bright and about

837
00:36:40,310 --> 00:36:38,480
ten thousand feet in the air

838
00:36:43,190 --> 00:36:40,320
they appeared to be of a bright shiny

839
00:36:44,790 --> 00:36:43,200
metal like polished silver

840
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:44,800
both were the same size and were

841
00:36:48,310 --> 00:36:46,720
traveling at the same rate of speed

842
00:36:50,230 --> 00:36:48,320
which was much slower than the jets

843
00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:50,240
which shot by shortly after i filmed the

844
00:36:53,829 --> 00:36:51,280
discs

845
00:36:55,270 --> 00:36:53,839
suddenly they stopped it was then i

846
00:36:57,109 --> 00:36:55,280
remembered the camera in the glove

847
00:36:58,950 --> 00:36:57,119
compartment of my car

848
00:37:01,190 --> 00:36:58,960
i raced downstairs yelling for my

849
00:37:02,470 --> 00:37:01,200
secretary miss virginia ronnie

850
00:37:04,870 --> 00:37:02,480
the distance from the top of the

851
00:37:06,829 --> 00:37:04,880
stairway to my car is about 60 feet and

852
00:37:09,589 --> 00:37:06,839
i must have made that in about six

853
00:37:11,510 --> 00:37:09,599
jumps i asked my secretary if she saw

854
00:37:14,710 --> 00:37:11,520
anything and she said yes

855
00:37:16,390 --> 00:37:14,720
two silvery spheres i unlocked the glove

856
00:37:18,710 --> 00:37:16,400
compartment of my car

857
00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:18,720
took out the camera turned the telephoto

858
00:37:23,829 --> 00:37:20,880
lens on the turret into position

859
00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:23,839
set the camera at f 22 picked up the

860
00:37:27,910 --> 00:37:25,200
objects in the viewfinder

861
00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:27,920
and pressed the trigger the discs

862
00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:29,760
appeared to be spinning like the top and

863
00:37:35,109 --> 00:37:31,760
were about 50 feet across

864
00:37:36,390 --> 00:37:35,119
and about 50 yards apart i could not see

865
00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:36,400
any exhaust

866
00:37:40,870 --> 00:37:39,359
wings or any kind of fuselage there was

867
00:37:43,589 --> 00:37:40,880
no cabin

868
00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:43,599
no odor no sound except i thought i

869
00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:45,599
heard a whooshing sound when i first saw

870
00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:47,520
them

871
00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:50,400
as the film clicked through the camera i

872
00:37:55,030 --> 00:37:52,320
could see the objects moving southeast

873
00:37:57,109 --> 00:37:55,040
behind the general mills grain building

874
00:37:58,950 --> 00:37:57,119
and the black water tank directly south

875
00:38:00,470 --> 00:37:58,960
of the ballpark

876
00:38:02,470 --> 00:38:00,480
i filmed the objects until they

877
00:38:07,190 --> 00:38:02,480
disappeared into the blue sky

878
00:38:10,630 --> 00:38:08,950
there's only a few feet of film it'll be

879
00:38:14,790 --> 00:38:10,640
over practically before your eyes are

880
00:38:18,790 --> 00:38:16,390
now remember there's only a few feet of

881
00:38:19,750 --> 00:38:18,800
film so watch closely i still had my

882
00:38:21,670 --> 00:38:19,760
doubts

883
00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:21,680
but i must admit i felt an excitement

884
00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:23,680
about seeing actual motion pictures of

885
00:38:26,550 --> 00:38:25,520
unidentified flying objects for the

886
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:26,560
first time

887
00:38:34,410 --> 00:39:02,230
[Applause]

888
00:39:07,750 --> 00:39:04,230
what do you make of it you saw what i

889
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:16,030
what's your opinion i'll run it again

890
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:42,280
[Applause]

891
00:39:47,109 --> 00:39:44,950
[Music]

892
00:39:48,390 --> 00:39:47,119
do you have a transcript on mariana it's

893
00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:48,400
a dayton good

894
00:39:52,230 --> 00:39:50,400
colonel cyril's wants me to go to dayton

895
00:39:54,310 --> 00:39:52,240
that is if you'll give me clearance

896
00:39:55,430 --> 00:39:54,320
i'll have you cleared it's a good idea

897
00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:55,440
for you to get acquainted with the

898
00:39:58,069 --> 00:39:56,800
history of ufos

899
00:40:00,150 --> 00:39:58,079
when you get to dayton you'll meet

900
00:40:02,069 --> 00:40:00,160
captain rupell the three of us are going

901
00:40:03,829 --> 00:40:02,079
to be working closely from here on

902
00:40:06,069 --> 00:40:03,839
rupelt will give you a complete briefing

903
00:40:08,150 --> 00:40:06,079
on blue book what's the story on him

904
00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:08,160
rupeel's an aeronautical engineer he

905
00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:10,480
knows about things that fly an excellent

906
00:40:14,550 --> 00:40:12,240
man to head up project blue book

907
00:40:15,910 --> 00:40:14,560
okay once again what's your opinion of

908
00:40:17,430 --> 00:40:15,920
this film

909
00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:17,440
as far as i'm concerned i'll have to

910
00:40:21,270 --> 00:40:19,599
classify them as unknowns

911
00:40:28,309 --> 00:40:21,280
i'll run the film again this time in

912
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:30,550
this time i strain my eyes to study the

913
00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:31,290
film

914
00:40:34,870 --> 00:40:32,880
[Applause]

915
00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:34,880
the air force analysts by measuring the

916
00:40:38,550 --> 00:40:36,960
angular velocity of the objects and by

917
00:40:50,829 --> 00:40:38,560
computing their speed

918
00:40:50,839 --> 00:40:55,190
balloons

919
00:41:00,069 --> 00:40:58,390
well there was something up there in

920
00:41:02,710 --> 00:41:00,079
that sky

921
00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:02,720
and if they were not balloons i don't

922
00:41:17,190 --> 00:41:04,560
know what to think

923
00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:18,870
here's some may i help you i'll chop to

924
00:41:23,030 --> 00:41:20,560
see captain loophole captain's right

925
00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:23,040
over there sir thanks

926
00:41:27,349 --> 00:41:25,760
captain roo palp i'm al chop have a seat

927
00:41:29,109 --> 00:41:27,359
sir

928
00:41:30,390 --> 00:41:29,119
major fernandae lured me you're arriving

929
00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:30,400
you've got the green light here where

930
00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:32,480
would you like to start

931
00:41:36,309 --> 00:41:34,480
as a springboard i suggested that he

932
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:36,319
briefed me on the general outline of how

933
00:41:41,670 --> 00:41:39,760
the organization handled reports on ufos

934
00:41:43,430 --> 00:41:41,680
rupelt began to fill me in on the

935
00:41:45,349 --> 00:41:43,440
baffling saucer problem

936
00:41:48,150 --> 00:41:45,359
including a breakdown on the reported

937
00:41:49,829 --> 00:41:48,160
sightings supplemented by graphs

938
00:41:51,670 --> 00:41:49,839
there were literally hundreds of cases

939
00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:51,680
where air defense command pilots had

940
00:41:56,069 --> 00:41:54,240
attempted to intercept ufos

941
00:41:57,829 --> 00:41:56,079
there were sightings where ufos have

942
00:42:00,870 --> 00:41:57,839
been tracked by ground radar

943
00:42:03,430 --> 00:42:00,880
airborne radar ground observation and

944
00:42:05,510 --> 00:42:03,440
combinations of all these elements

945
00:42:07,030 --> 00:42:05,520
i accompanied intelligence officers on

946
00:42:09,030 --> 00:42:07,040
investigations

947
00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:09,040
i witnessed the difficulty in breaking

948
00:42:12,790 --> 00:42:11,040
down and gaining the confidence of those

949
00:42:14,069 --> 00:42:12,800
who were reluctant to talk about their

950
00:42:15,829 --> 00:42:14,079
experiences

951
00:42:17,109 --> 00:42:15,839
for fear of personal ridicule and

952
00:42:19,670 --> 00:42:17,119
embarrassment

953
00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:19,680
others were cooperative i observed the

954
00:42:23,990 --> 00:42:21,760
technique of thorough interrogation used

955
00:42:25,270 --> 00:42:24,000
by blue books analysis and investigative

956
00:42:27,349 --> 00:42:25,280
staff

957
00:42:29,910 --> 00:42:27,359
in almost every case i heard the same

958
00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:29,920
words used to describe the sighting

959
00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:31,200
these words were

960
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:34,400
lights and metallic objects there were

961
00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:37,200
reports by reliable competent observers

962
00:42:40,950 --> 00:42:38,880
including high-ranking air force and

963
00:42:42,230 --> 00:42:40,960
navy flyers civil engineers and

964
00:42:44,069 --> 00:42:42,240
scientists

965
00:42:48,309 --> 00:42:44,079
i learned that the staggering total of

966
00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:48,319
over 3 500 reports had been received

967
00:42:52,390 --> 00:42:49,680
quite a few of these sightings are

968
00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:52,400
unsolved approximately 85 percent of the

969
00:42:57,270 --> 00:42:54,640
sightings are designated as solved

970
00:42:58,790 --> 00:42:57,280
according to this document 14.3 percent

971
00:43:00,870 --> 00:42:58,800
of all sightings are officially

972
00:43:02,390 --> 00:43:00,880
designated as unknown

973
00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:02,400
the newsmen keep hitting me with the

974
00:43:07,829 --> 00:43:04,480
unsolved cases

975
00:43:09,190 --> 00:43:07,839
anyway solved is a big word how do you

976
00:43:10,870 --> 00:43:09,200
solve them

977
00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:10,880
there's nothing hit or miss about it

978
00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:12,880
i'll show you

979
00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:16,560
on december 1st 1952 between 4 30 and 5

980
00:43:21,430 --> 00:43:18,240
o'clock in the morning

981
00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:21,440
several major airports in this area

982
00:43:25,190 --> 00:43:23,760
record a single round object it was

983
00:43:27,910 --> 00:43:25,200
flashing first white

984
00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:27,920
then white orange then amber it was

985
00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:30,400
observed northwest of this central point

986
00:43:33,589 --> 00:43:32,400
at an angle of 15 degrees above the

987
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:33,599
horizon

988
00:43:37,750 --> 00:43:36,290
remember that 15 degrees it's important

989
00:43:39,670 --> 00:43:37,760
[Music]

990
00:43:41,990 --> 00:43:39,680
reports arrived here from teterboro

991
00:43:44,870 --> 00:43:42,000
airport westchester airport

992
00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:44,880
newark airport laguardia airfield

993
00:43:49,030 --> 00:43:47,200
idlewild and mitchell field

994
00:43:50,710 --> 00:43:49,040
this flashy sphere of light was also

995
00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:50,720
observed by an eastern airline pilot who

996
00:43:54,790 --> 00:43:52,640
radioed in his report

997
00:43:56,150 --> 00:43:54,800
various observers at all these airports

998
00:43:57,510 --> 00:43:56,160
watched the object through high-power

999
00:43:59,109 --> 00:43:57,520
binoculars

1000
00:44:00,870 --> 00:43:59,119
when the report arrived here we checked

1001
00:44:02,069 --> 00:44:00,880
the weather in that area with air force

1002
00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:02,079
weather bureau

1003
00:44:05,349 --> 00:44:03,760
that night at that time there was no

1004
00:44:06,870 --> 00:44:05,359
temperature inversion

1005
00:44:08,230 --> 00:44:06,880
we got in touch with navy balloon

1006
00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:08,240
project center at the university of

1007
00:44:11,109 --> 00:44:09,599
minnesota

1008
00:44:13,109 --> 00:44:11,119
that gave us an exact schedule of

1009
00:44:14,790 --> 00:44:13,119
balloons released from that center

1010
00:44:15,990 --> 00:44:14,800
we got similar information from every

1011
00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:16,000
other point where weather balloons are

1012
00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:17,680
released to air force balloon plotting

1013
00:44:22,390 --> 00:44:20,160
center at lowry field denver

1014
00:44:24,230 --> 00:44:22,400
we contacted air force weather for wind

1015
00:44:26,150 --> 00:44:24,240
conditions and velocity at the altitude

1016
00:44:28,309 --> 00:44:26,160
of known balloons

1017
00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:28,319
a precise computation of balloons in the

1018
00:44:33,190 --> 00:44:30,720
air and known wind conditions definitely

1019
00:44:34,630 --> 00:44:33,200
removed balloons from the picture

1020
00:44:36,309 --> 00:44:34,640
we checked with flight service to

1021
00:44:37,030 --> 00:44:36,319
determine if any aircraft were in the

1022
00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:37,040
vicinity

1023
00:44:40,630 --> 00:44:39,359
on the bearing at that time there were

1024
00:44:42,150 --> 00:44:40,640
no aircraft

1025
00:44:43,990 --> 00:44:42,160
and still this thing was up there all

1026
00:44:45,670 --> 00:44:44,000
the time being observed by various

1027
00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:45,680
personnel from airfields all over that

1028
00:44:48,309 --> 00:44:46,240
area

1029
00:44:49,990 --> 00:44:48,319
correct and they were seeing it we

1030
00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:50,000
checked with our contract astronomer

1031
00:44:53,109 --> 00:44:51,760
at a leading university in locality and

1032
00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:53,119
gave the astronomer the angle of

1033
00:44:57,030 --> 00:44:54,000
elevation

1034
00:44:58,790 --> 00:44:57,040
and bearing of the object remember

1035
00:45:01,190 --> 00:44:58,800
the object was observed at an angle of

1036
00:45:02,870 --> 00:45:01,200
15 degrees above the horizon and i told

1037
00:45:05,270 --> 00:45:02,880
you that was important

1038
00:45:07,190 --> 00:45:05,280
it proved to be the conclusive factor

1039
00:45:08,470 --> 00:45:07,200
our storm reported that at the time of

1040
00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:08,480
the observation

1041
00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:11,680
the planet jupiter was 15 degrees above

1042
00:45:14,309 --> 00:45:12,720
the horizon

1043
00:45:15,750 --> 00:45:14,319
and on the angle of elevation and

1044
00:45:17,589 --> 00:45:15,760
bearing of the object

1045
00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:17,599
there's no doubt about it what all these

1046
00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:19,200
people saw was jupiter

1047
00:45:23,270 --> 00:45:21,280
what made the light flash atmospheric

1048
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:23,280
conditions the same conditions that make

1049
00:45:26,790 --> 00:45:24,800
the stars appear to twinkle

1050
00:45:29,190 --> 00:45:26,800
and people really go into these things

1051
00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:29,200
we try in over 80 percent of the cases

1052
00:45:32,790 --> 00:45:31,200
we come up with the correct answers

1053
00:45:35,109 --> 00:45:32,800
we don't get the correct answers in all

1054
00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:35,119
the cases what about the motion picture

1055
00:45:38,870 --> 00:45:36,880
made by this navy man new house

1056
00:45:40,790 --> 00:45:38,880
we're working on that how does it look

1057
00:45:42,950 --> 00:45:40,800
impressive can i see it

1058
00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:42,960
it's being analyzed when the film is

1059
00:45:44,870 --> 00:45:44,400
available will i be able to take a look

1060
00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:44,880
at it

1061
00:45:48,150 --> 00:45:47,040
as soon as analysis is completed you'll

1062
00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:48,160
see it satisfied

1063
00:45:53,190 --> 00:45:51,200
yeah how long will that take

1064
00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:53,200
about a week we're doing the exhaustive

1065
00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:54,960
check on the new house stuff

1066
00:45:57,990 --> 00:45:57,200
really putting it through the ringer

1067
00:45:59,430 --> 00:45:58,000
when we're through

1068
00:46:01,030 --> 00:45:59,440
we'll forward a printed director of

1069
00:46:02,230 --> 00:46:01,040
intelligence with a complete report of

1070
00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:02,240
our analysis

1071
00:46:05,829 --> 00:46:03,920
fill me in on new house would you

1072
00:46:07,750 --> 00:46:05,839
consider him a qualified observer

1073
00:46:09,670 --> 00:46:07,760
he rates as a top flight observer an

1074
00:46:11,109 --> 00:46:09,680
extremely competent one

1075
00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:11,119
immediately upon getting word of his

1076
00:46:14,069 --> 00:46:13,200
sighting dispatched an investigator from

1077
00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:14,079
travis air force

1078
00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:17,200
base to interrogate new house the exact

1079
00:46:20,069 --> 00:46:19,280
date of his sighting was july 2nd at 11

1080
00:46:23,510 --> 00:46:20,079
a.m

1081
00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:27,030
i was driving on u.s highway 30 south

1082
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:30,000
with my wife and our son delbert and our

1083
00:46:33,829 --> 00:46:31,440
daughter ann

1084
00:46:35,109 --> 00:46:33,839
we were on our way from washington dc to

1085
00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:35,119
portland oregon

1086
00:46:40,069 --> 00:46:38,480
on vacation before reporting to my new

1087
00:46:42,470 --> 00:46:40,079
duty station

1088
00:46:43,510 --> 00:46:42,480
at the aviation supply depot naval

1089
00:46:47,190 --> 00:46:43,520
supply center

1090
00:46:47,750 --> 00:46:47,200
oakland california about seven miles

1091
00:46:51,030 --> 00:46:47,760
after we

1092
00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:51,040
passed through tremont and utah my wife

1093
00:46:54,550 --> 00:46:52,480
noticed a

1094
00:46:56,790 --> 00:46:54,560
group of objects in the sky but she

1095
00:46:59,349 --> 00:46:56,800
could not identify

1096
00:46:59,990 --> 00:46:59,359
i pulled over the side of the road

1097
00:47:03,750 --> 00:47:00,000
stopped

1098
00:47:06,630 --> 00:47:03,760
got out looked up and saw the objects

1099
00:47:08,630 --> 00:47:06,640
there were about 12 of them in a rough

1100
00:47:12,069 --> 00:47:08,640
formation

1101
00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:12,079
proceeding in a westerly direction

1102
00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:13,440
they were like nothing i'd ever seen

1103
00:47:17,349 --> 00:47:15,680
before although i've logged some 2000

1104
00:47:19,750 --> 00:47:17,359
hours in the air

1105
00:47:22,069 --> 00:47:19,760
they were identical in appearance how

1106
00:47:24,309 --> 00:47:22,079
would you describe these objects

1107
00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:24,319
like two saucers one inverted over the

1108
00:47:27,990 --> 00:47:25,200
other

1109
00:47:29,589 --> 00:47:28,000
i had no means of judging the altitude

1110
00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:29,599
it appeared to me to be about the size

1111
00:47:34,790 --> 00:47:32,640
of v29s at 10 000 feet

1112
00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:34,800
did you photograph them immediately i

1113
00:47:37,910 --> 00:47:36,480
watched the objects for a few moments

1114
00:47:40,069 --> 00:47:37,920
before getting my camera out of the

1115
00:47:41,990 --> 00:47:40,079
suitcase then i lost more time getting

1116
00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:42,000
film out of his second suitcase annoying

1117
00:47:45,829 --> 00:47:43,440
camera

1118
00:47:46,549 --> 00:47:45,839
when i first saw the objects they were

1119
00:47:48,870 --> 00:47:46,559
almost

1120
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:48,880
overhead by the time i had the camera

1121
00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:50,000
ready to go they had moved

1122
00:47:53,589 --> 00:47:52,000
to a considerably greater distance what

1123
00:47:56,950 --> 00:47:53,599
kind of a camera did you use

1124
00:47:59,829 --> 00:47:56,960
a 16 millimeter bell and howl

1125
00:48:01,510 --> 00:47:59,839
a film auto load master with the three

1126
00:48:05,109 --> 00:48:01,520
lens turret

1127
00:48:09,030 --> 00:48:05,119
i selected a three inch lens and

1128
00:48:11,750 --> 00:48:09,040
set it on f8 and focused at infinity

1129
00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:11,760
did you think of using slow motion no

1130
00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:13,680
the camera was set on 16 frames per

1131
00:48:17,109 --> 00:48:14,800
second

1132
00:48:18,630 --> 00:48:17,119
and in the excitement of the moment i

1133
00:48:19,190 --> 00:48:18,640
didn't think to shoot at a greater rate

1134
00:48:22,549 --> 00:48:19,200
although

1135
00:48:25,510 --> 00:48:22,559
that would have improved the coverage i

1136
00:48:25,990 --> 00:48:25,520
centered the viewfinder on the objects

1137
00:48:28,790 --> 00:48:26,000
and

1138
00:48:30,549 --> 00:48:28,800
made the first shot then i decided if

1139
00:48:31,670 --> 00:48:30,559
the sky were darker the objects would

1140
00:48:34,870 --> 00:48:31,680
show better

1141
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:34,880
so i stopped the lens down to f16

1142
00:48:38,790 --> 00:48:37,440
and continued photographing this proved

1143
00:48:40,069 --> 00:48:38,800
to be a mistake because

1144
00:48:43,589 --> 00:48:40,079
the quality of the film would have been

1145
00:48:47,190 --> 00:48:45,430
did these objects remain together in a

1146
00:48:49,430 --> 00:48:47,200
group at all times

1147
00:48:51,190 --> 00:48:49,440
no toward the end one object reversed

1148
00:48:53,510 --> 00:48:51,200
its course and proceeded away from the

1149
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:53,520
rest of the group i held the camera

1150
00:48:56,710 --> 00:48:55,200
still and allowed this

1151
00:48:59,430 --> 00:48:56,720
single object to pass through the field

1152
00:49:00,230 --> 00:48:59,440
of view picking it up again later in its

1153
00:49:01,990 --> 00:49:00,240
course

1154
00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:02,000
did this single object return to the

1155
00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:03,520
rest of the group

1156
00:49:06,790 --> 00:49:05,119
no i allowed it to pass through the

1157
00:49:07,990 --> 00:49:06,800
field of view of the camera

1158
00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:08,000
two or three times and then it

1159
00:49:12,230 --> 00:49:10,079
disappeared in what direction

1160
00:49:13,910 --> 00:49:12,240
over the eastern horizon what did you do

1161
00:49:16,549 --> 00:49:13,920
then

1162
00:49:17,430 --> 00:49:16,559
i turned swinging the camera just in

1163
00:49:19,030 --> 00:49:17,440
time to

1164
00:49:20,549 --> 00:49:19,040
see the rest of the group disappear over

1165
00:49:22,630 --> 00:49:20,559
the western horizon

1166
00:49:24,309 --> 00:49:22,640
what was the weather the weather was

1167
00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:24,319
bright and cloudless

1168
00:49:27,510 --> 00:49:26,480
visibility good the visibility was

1169
00:49:29,270 --> 00:49:27,520
excellent

1170
00:49:31,270 --> 00:49:29,280
how does this film you shot compare with

1171
00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:31,280
what you saw with your naked eye

1172
00:49:35,829 --> 00:49:33,520
you have studied the film yes i've

1173
00:49:38,309 --> 00:49:35,839
studied it i'm very disappointed

1174
00:49:40,069 --> 00:49:38,319
the film falls far short of showing why

1175
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:40,079
i saw the naked eye

1176
00:49:45,190 --> 00:49:41,520
due to the delay in getting the camera

1177
00:49:46,630 --> 00:49:45,200
started and my error in exposure

1178
00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:46,640
if i'd had this camera in the seat

1179
00:49:51,670 --> 00:49:49,280
beside me loaded and ready to go

1180
00:49:53,670 --> 00:49:51,680
there'd be no need for questions the air

1181
00:49:55,829 --> 00:49:53,680
force would have the answer

1182
00:49:57,589 --> 00:49:55,839
what is your full name please delbert

1183
00:49:59,589 --> 00:49:57,599
clement newhouse

1184
00:50:00,950 --> 00:49:59,599
and you are on active duty with the navy

1185
00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:00,960
yes sir i am

1186
00:50:05,030 --> 00:50:03,520
what is your official navy rank my title

1187
00:50:06,870 --> 00:50:05,040
is chief photographer

1188
00:50:08,230 --> 00:50:06,880
and a commissioned warrant officer

1189
00:50:10,230 --> 00:50:08,240
united states navy

1190
00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:10,240
how long have you been in the service 21

1191
00:50:13,349 --> 00:50:11,680
years

1192
00:50:15,750 --> 00:50:13,359
now is there anything you can add to the

1193
00:50:18,870 --> 00:50:15,760
description of these objects

1194
00:50:21,990 --> 00:50:18,880
they had a bright silvery color

1195
00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:22,000
can you describe some particular detail

1196
00:50:26,549 --> 00:50:25,119
they had a metallic appearance they seem

1197
00:50:30,230 --> 00:50:26,559
to be made of some kind of

1198
00:50:33,510 --> 00:50:31,990
the new house film as i told you is

1199
00:50:36,549 --> 00:50:33,520
presently under analysis

1200
00:50:40,950 --> 00:50:36,559
sergeant would you get me the fargo case

1201
00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:40,960
the fargo sighting was october 1st 1948

1202
00:50:44,870 --> 00:50:43,440
a national guard lieutenant thank you a

1203
00:50:52,829 --> 00:50:44,880
national guard lieutenant

1204
00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:54,309
airport

1205
00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:56,160
captain rupell gave me the details from

1206
00:51:00,390 --> 00:50:58,559
the record the pilot after a routine

1207
00:51:01,109 --> 00:51:00,400
patrol flight was cleared by the tower

1208
00:51:03,750 --> 00:51:01,119
to land

1209
00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:03,760
when he asked anything in the way

1210
00:51:10,470 --> 00:51:06,400
there's a piper cub below you

1211
00:51:14,069 --> 00:51:12,470
i see the piper cub i see another light

1212
00:51:17,589 --> 00:51:14,079
about a thousand yards ahead of me

1213
00:51:24,390 --> 00:51:21,510
i can see you but i can't see the light

1214
00:51:28,309 --> 00:51:26,549
the pilot told the tower he could see it

1215
00:51:35,589 --> 00:51:28,319
and was going to close in and try to

1216
00:51:40,230 --> 00:51:37,589
i can see it clearly now a small white

1217
00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:40,240
light keeps blinking on and off

1218
00:51:44,470 --> 00:51:42,480
as he approached it the blinking light

1219
00:51:46,950 --> 00:51:44,480
became clear and steady

1220
00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:46,960
suddenly it pulled into a sharp left

1221
00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:47,920
bank

1222
00:51:51,190 --> 00:51:48,960
i think this thing is going to make a

1223
00:51:55,270 --> 00:51:51,200
pass on the tower

1224
00:51:57,670 --> 00:51:55,280
i see it now i see it

1225
00:51:59,670 --> 00:51:57,680
pilot dived on the light and although he

1226
00:52:00,069 --> 00:51:59,680
brought his manifold pressure up to 60

1227
00:52:02,390 --> 00:52:00,079
inches

1228
00:52:03,190 --> 00:52:02,400
he reported i can't seem to catch up

1229
00:52:04,950 --> 00:52:03,200
with the thing

1230
00:52:06,309 --> 00:52:04,960
he's gaining altitude and just made an

1231
00:52:12,470 --> 00:52:06,319
impossible turn

1232
00:52:17,190 --> 00:52:14,710
you're right it's gaining altitude on

1233
00:52:17,990 --> 00:52:17,200
you and it's still in a very tight left

1234
00:52:19,990 --> 00:52:18,000
turn

1235
00:52:21,910 --> 00:52:20,000
by that time they were at seven thousand

1236
00:52:25,030 --> 00:52:21,920
feet when suddenly

1237
00:52:29,190 --> 00:52:25,040
the light made a 90 degree right turn he

1238
00:52:34,470 --> 00:52:31,030
the light passed directly over your

1239
00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:34,480
canopy at i estimate about 500 feet

1240
00:52:39,750 --> 00:52:36,240
the object suddenly shot straight into

1241
00:52:42,309 --> 00:52:39,760
the air pilot followed it to 14 000 feet

1242
00:52:44,069 --> 00:52:42,319
when his plane went into a power stall

1243
00:52:46,470 --> 00:52:44,079
the object disappeared

1244
00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:46,480
the chase had lasted approximately 27

1245
00:52:49,589 --> 00:52:47,760
minutes

1246
00:52:50,950 --> 00:52:49,599
the officer in the tower was the airport

1247
00:52:53,190 --> 00:52:50,960
traffic controller

1248
00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:53,200
the lieutenant was an instructor for the

1249
00:52:56,870 --> 00:52:55,599
french during the second world war

1250
00:52:58,390 --> 00:52:56,880
he said he was sure there was an

1251
00:52:59,190 --> 00:52:58,400
intelligence behind the movements of the

1252
00:53:01,109 --> 00:52:59,200
lights

1253
00:53:02,390 --> 00:53:01,119
he stated too that no earth born pilot

1254
00:53:04,230 --> 00:53:02,400
could have withstood the g factor

1255
00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:04,240
inherent in the object's turns and speed

1256
00:53:07,670 --> 00:53:05,680
without blacking out

1257
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:07,680
was there radar at the field no there

1258
00:53:10,790 --> 00:53:08,880
wasn't too bad

1259
00:53:12,950 --> 00:53:10,800
radar would have made it airtight not

1260
00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:12,960
necessarily i thought our radar return

1261
00:53:17,270 --> 00:53:14,480
was indisputable evidence

1262
00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:17,280
no it isn't are you a radar expert no

1263
00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:18,160
i'm not

1264
00:53:24,069 --> 00:53:21,599
but i have one on tap give me extension

1265
00:53:25,750 --> 00:53:24,079
361.

1266
00:53:28,309 --> 00:53:25,760
we have a team of three radar analysts

1267
00:53:31,670 --> 00:53:28,319
here in air phenomenon branch

1268
00:53:32,790 --> 00:53:31,680
i want to talk to wynn swanson all radar

1269
00:53:34,230 --> 00:53:32,800
reports received here

1270
00:53:37,670 --> 00:53:34,240
pass through this radar analysis

1271
00:53:39,750 --> 00:53:37,680
division swanson

1272
00:53:45,270 --> 00:53:39,760
i have a man here from the pentagon he's

1273
00:53:59,430 --> 00:53:49,510
okay feels socked in solid with fog but

1274
00:54:04,230 --> 00:54:02,470
this is ground control approach with

1275
00:54:07,270 --> 00:54:04,240
zero visibility

1276
00:54:09,990 --> 00:54:07,280
gca picks up the aircraft coming in

1277
00:54:11,670 --> 00:54:10,000
by means of the pips on their scope can

1278
00:54:14,069 --> 00:54:11,680
talk them into a landing

1279
00:54:17,750 --> 00:54:14,079
now this scope here gives the aircraft

1280
00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:19,349
this scope here tells you whether you're

1281
00:54:21,750 --> 00:54:20,880
the right or the left of the landing

1282
00:54:22,950 --> 00:54:21,760
strip

1283
00:54:24,870 --> 00:54:22,960
and that one there tells you whether

1284
00:54:26,870 --> 00:54:24,880
you're too high or too low

1285
00:54:28,150 --> 00:54:26,880
now the next scope is the same as this

1286
00:54:31,750 --> 00:54:28,160
one except that it gives you more

1287
00:54:40,470 --> 00:54:38,150
this is

1288
00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:40,480
there you can see him on the screen and

1289
00:54:43,910 --> 00:54:42,000
you can track him all the way in he's

1290
00:54:46,309 --> 00:54:43,920
flying blind

1291
00:54:50,470 --> 00:54:46,319
steer right to heading 20 degrees and

1292
00:54:53,670 --> 00:54:50,480
begin descent to 1500 feet

1293
00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:53,680
this is force 162 steering 20 degrees

1294
00:55:00,150 --> 00:54:55,200
descending to 1

1295
00:55:02,390 --> 00:55:00,160
500 over air force 162 the weather at

1296
00:55:06,150 --> 00:55:02,400
patterson field is 100 feet

1297
00:55:10,069 --> 00:55:06,160
ragged ceiling visibility one half mile

1298
00:55:13,190 --> 00:55:10,079
light rain wind southwest six

1299
00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:13,200
altimeter nine nine eight

1300
00:55:17,349 --> 00:55:15,040
if you can see it on radar there can be

1301
00:55:19,109 --> 00:55:17,359
no question about misinterpretation

1302
00:55:25,670 --> 00:55:19,119
in this case no these are good solid

1303
00:55:33,030 --> 00:55:29,829
air force 162 steer left to heading 3-5

1304
00:55:33,670 --> 00:55:33,040
turning downwind leg range eight miles

1305
00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:33,680
south

1306
00:55:43,109 --> 00:55:41,030
sometimes a temperature inversion will

1307
00:55:46,390 --> 00:55:43,119
cause trouble

1308
00:55:47,990 --> 00:55:46,400
ionized clouds or equipment malfunction

1309
00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:48,000
will cause false blips

1310
00:55:52,309 --> 00:55:49,920
can you tell a false blip from one made

1311
00:55:54,950 --> 00:55:52,319
by aircraft yes any experienced operator

1312
00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:54,960
can tell in a minute or so

1313
00:55:58,150 --> 00:55:57,599
air force one six two steer left to

1314
00:56:00,829 --> 00:55:58,160
heading

1315
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:00,839
two one five this will put you on final

1316
00:56:05,370 --> 00:56:09,430
[Music]

1317
00:56:12,950 --> 00:56:11,829
air force 162 this is your final

1318
00:56:16,309 --> 00:56:12,960
director

1319
00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:16,319
how do you read me over this is air

1320
00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:19,440
162 you are loud and clear

1321
00:56:24,150 --> 00:56:22,960
air force 162 roger your range is seven

1322
00:56:26,789 --> 00:56:24,160
miles

1323
00:56:28,710 --> 00:56:26,799
slow aircraft to descending speed make

1324
00:56:32,470 --> 00:56:28,720
final flap setting

1325
00:56:36,230 --> 00:56:32,480
maintain altitude of 1200

1326
00:56:38,230 --> 00:56:36,240
heading 215 do not acknowledge any

1327
00:56:39,829 --> 00:56:38,240
further transmission unless unable to

1328
00:56:42,069 --> 00:56:39,839
comply

1329
00:56:43,190 --> 00:56:42,079
if you do not hear gca for any five

1330
00:56:45,270 --> 00:56:43,200
second interval

1331
00:56:46,549 --> 00:56:45,280
climb to one thousand feet on a heading

1332
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:46,559
of one two five

1333
00:56:52,950 --> 00:56:49,920
and contact approach control

1334
00:56:56,230 --> 00:56:52,960
steer right to heading two one zero

1335
00:56:57,510 --> 00:56:56,240
range five miles you are now approaching

1336
00:57:00,390 --> 00:56:57,520
glide path

1337
00:57:01,510 --> 00:57:00,400
start normal rate of descent at 600 feet

1338
00:57:05,030 --> 00:57:01,520
per minute

1339
00:57:08,390 --> 00:57:05,040
entry to glide path good steer left

1340
00:57:11,670 --> 00:57:08,400
to heading 212 range

1341
00:57:15,670 --> 00:57:11,680
4 miles go above glide path

1342
00:57:18,309 --> 00:57:15,680
10 15 25 feet high

1343
00:57:20,630 --> 00:57:18,319
increase your rate of descent slightly

1344
00:57:23,109 --> 00:57:20,640
heading 2-1-2

1345
00:57:25,750 --> 00:57:23,119
holding you on the center line holding

1346
00:57:28,470 --> 00:57:25,760
two feet high on glide path

1347
00:57:29,190 --> 00:57:28,480
check that descent steer right to

1348
00:57:33,670 --> 00:57:29,200
heading

1349
00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:33,680
of two one three range now three miles

1350
00:57:37,829 --> 00:57:36,880
holding glide path very well go below

1351
00:57:41,990 --> 00:57:37,839
glide path

1352
00:57:45,510 --> 00:57:42,000
10 20 30 feet level off slightly

1353
00:57:49,190 --> 00:57:45,520
steer right to heading 2 1 4

1354
00:57:52,309 --> 00:57:49,200
coming back nicely to glide path 25

1355
00:57:54,710 --> 00:57:52,319
20 15 feet low

1356
00:57:56,069 --> 00:57:54,720
heading 214 had you lined up with the

1357
00:57:59,829 --> 00:57:56,079
center line

1358
00:58:00,789 --> 00:57:59,839
range two miles holding 15 feet low on

1359
00:58:04,230 --> 00:58:00,799
the glide path

1360
00:58:06,950 --> 00:58:04,240
bring it up slightly 10 5

1361
00:58:08,309 --> 00:58:06,960
now on glide path range one and a half

1362
00:58:11,910 --> 00:58:08,319
miles

1363
00:58:15,510 --> 00:58:11,920
heading two one four on byte path

1364
00:58:18,309 --> 00:58:15,520
steer left to heading two one three

1365
00:58:20,829 --> 00:58:18,319
over the end of runway on center line on

1366
00:58:23,190 --> 00:58:20,839
glide path as you approach point of

1367
00:58:27,589 --> 00:58:23,200
touchdown

1368
00:58:28,789 --> 00:58:27,599
see the runway pull up and climb to one

1369
00:58:52,810 --> 00:58:28,799
thousand feet

1370
00:58:52,820 --> 00:58:56,950
[Applause]

1371
00:59:06,950 --> 00:59:04,150
he's safe at home well that's it

1372
00:59:07,990 --> 00:59:06,960
coffee yes what exactly is your job here

1373
00:59:09,430 --> 00:59:08,000
swanson

1374
00:59:11,750 --> 00:59:09,440
i'm one of a group of three radar

1375
00:59:13,750 --> 00:59:11,760
specialists employed by the air force

1376
00:59:15,349 --> 00:59:13,760
reports of radar contacts of

1377
00:59:16,789 --> 00:59:15,359
unidentified objects

1378
00:59:18,789 --> 00:59:16,799
are sent in to us from all over the

1379
00:59:20,150 --> 00:59:18,799
world for analysis how long have you

1380
00:59:22,309 --> 00:59:20,160
been in air force intelligence

1381
00:59:23,510 --> 00:59:22,319
two years ever come across any cases you

1382
00:59:26,150 --> 00:59:23,520
couldn't solve

1383
00:59:28,150 --> 00:59:26,160
we have unsolved cases yes cases where

1384
00:59:29,510 --> 00:59:28,160
good solid blips appeared and no known

1385
00:59:31,510 --> 00:59:29,520
objects in the area

1386
00:59:33,349 --> 00:59:31,520
then two we have cases of fantastic

1387
00:59:34,789 --> 00:59:33,359
speed exactly what do you mean by

1388
00:59:36,710 --> 00:59:34,799
fantastic speed

1389
00:59:38,470 --> 00:59:36,720
i mean speeds greater than any achieved

1390
00:59:40,710 --> 00:59:38,480
by man how much greater

1391
00:59:41,829 --> 00:59:40,720
thousands of miles per hour thousands of

1392
00:59:44,069 --> 00:59:41,839
miles

1393
00:59:45,589 --> 00:59:44,079
what's your idea what they are all i can

1394
00:59:47,910 --> 00:59:45,599
say is unknown

1395
00:59:50,150 --> 00:59:47,920
you must remember that i've been

1396
00:59:52,390 --> 00:59:50,160
restricted to only radar contacts

1397
00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:52,400
i have no experience with visual

1398
00:59:55,910 --> 00:59:54,160
contacts what do you think about the

1399
00:59:57,910 --> 00:59:55,920
chances of these objects having

1400
01:00:01,190 --> 00:59:57,920
intelligence behind their control

1401
01:00:02,870 --> 01:00:01,200
all i can say is i have an open mind

1402
01:00:04,549 --> 01:00:02,880
what do you think about the theory of

1403
01:00:09,190 --> 01:00:04,559
interplanetary source

1404
01:00:13,510 --> 01:00:11,750
i spent a full week in dayton i had

1405
01:00:15,109 --> 01:00:13,520
hoped to see the new house film before

1406
01:00:16,870 --> 01:00:15,119
returning to washington

1407
01:00:19,190 --> 01:00:16,880
but it was still under analysis by the

1408
01:00:21,670 --> 01:00:19,200
right field photo lab

1409
01:00:23,589 --> 01:00:21,680
when the analysis was completed the film

1410
01:00:25,589 --> 01:00:23,599
was taken by an air force courier and

1411
01:00:27,030 --> 01:00:25,599
hand carry to washington to be viewed by

1412
01:00:28,870 --> 01:00:27,040
the director general of air force

1413
01:00:37,430 --> 01:00:28,880
intelligence

1414
01:00:39,270 --> 01:00:37,440
that this film could not be produced

1415
01:00:41,190 --> 01:00:39,280
under simulated conditions

1416
01:01:46,069 --> 01:00:41,200
let's go there'll be several feet of

1417
01:01:49,750 --> 01:01:48,230
the film as newhouse had predicted was

1418
01:01:51,510 --> 01:01:49,760
in bad condition

1419
01:01:55,829 --> 01:01:51,520
but the chief interest was in movement

1420
01:02:58,710 --> 01:01:57,589
after a moment the general asked to see

1421
01:03:05,029 --> 01:03:03,270
how about that

1422
01:03:09,109 --> 01:03:05,039
those were the only words spoken in the

1423
01:03:13,510 --> 01:03:11,190
a few days later major fournette had

1424
01:03:15,190 --> 01:03:13,520
some news for me

1425
01:03:17,190 --> 01:03:15,200
we got the analysis of the new house

1426
01:03:17,990 --> 01:03:17,200
film from air material command what does

1427
01:03:21,270 --> 01:03:18,000
it show

1428
01:03:25,029 --> 01:03:21,280
not birds not balloons not

1429
01:03:25,990 --> 01:03:25,039
aircraft not faked with a telephoto lens

1430
01:03:27,750 --> 01:03:26,000
used

1431
01:03:29,270 --> 01:03:27,760
weather balloons within five miles

1432
01:03:30,390 --> 01:03:29,280
distance could have been determined on

1433
01:03:32,789 --> 01:03:30,400
the film

1434
01:03:35,109 --> 01:03:32,799
at a greater distance in five miles they

1435
01:03:37,750 --> 01:03:35,119
could not attain the speeds calculated

1436
01:03:39,510 --> 01:03:37,760
within a five mile range an aircraft a

1437
01:03:41,109 --> 01:03:39,520
forty foot wingspan could have been

1438
01:03:43,589 --> 01:03:41,119
clearly determined

1439
01:03:45,349 --> 01:03:43,599
in excess of five miles the speeds of

1440
01:03:46,390 --> 01:03:45,359
the objects are greater than aircraft

1441
01:03:49,270 --> 01:03:46,400
could achieve

1442
01:03:51,270 --> 01:03:49,280
except in a straight-line speed run no

1443
01:03:53,270 --> 01:03:51,280
bird is sufficiently reflective

1444
01:03:55,829 --> 01:03:53,280
has to cause the film to react as

1445
01:03:58,870 --> 01:03:55,839
strongly as it is done

1446
01:04:02,549 --> 01:03:58,880
if they're not birds not balloons

1447
01:04:05,510 --> 01:04:02,559
or aircraft and the film isn't faked

1448
01:04:08,470 --> 01:04:05,520
what can these things be the official

1449
01:04:13,829 --> 01:04:12,789
unknowns the new house film was only the

1450
01:04:17,750 --> 01:04:13,839
overture

1451
01:04:19,190 --> 01:04:17,760
a few minutes before 1 am july 20th 1952

1452
01:04:21,109 --> 01:04:19,200
the curtain on the first act of the

1453
01:04:23,190 --> 01:04:21,119
washington drama went up

1454
01:04:25,029 --> 01:04:23,200
the unknowns moved in for the first time

1455
01:04:27,190 --> 01:04:25,039
over the national capital

1456
01:04:29,589 --> 01:04:27,200
i had always regarded myself as a man

1457
01:04:31,910 --> 01:04:29,599
with an intuitive nose for news

1458
01:04:34,069 --> 01:04:31,920
so through the first washington sighting

1459
01:04:36,390 --> 01:04:34,079
while the saucers hovered over the city

1460
01:04:38,630 --> 01:04:36,400
i was in bed sleeping soundly through it

1461
01:04:42,549 --> 01:04:40,390
when i reached my desk that morning we

1462
01:04:44,150 --> 01:04:42,559
were flooded with newspaper queries

1463
01:04:46,470 --> 01:04:44,160
telephones were jangling throughout the

1464
01:04:48,470 --> 01:04:46,480
day irate editors from all over the

1465
01:04:50,309 --> 01:04:48,480
country were insistently demanding more

1466
01:04:52,710 --> 01:04:50,319
specific information

1467
01:04:54,390 --> 01:04:52,720
newsmen from the wire services reporters

1468
01:04:55,589 --> 01:04:54,400
from local and out of town newspapers

1469
01:04:57,349 --> 01:04:55,599
were hemming me in

1470
01:04:58,870 --> 01:04:57,359
belaboring me with questions for which i

1471
01:05:00,549 --> 01:04:58,880
had no answers

1472
01:05:02,230 --> 01:05:00,559
for the first couple of hours we at the

1473
01:05:03,990 --> 01:05:02,240
press desk had a terrible time getting

1474
01:05:05,990 --> 01:05:04,000
the story straight ourselves

1475
01:05:07,109 --> 01:05:06,000
but bit by bit i managed to piece it

1476
01:05:08,870 --> 01:05:07,119
together

1477
01:05:11,430 --> 01:05:08,880
there had been both visual and radar

1478
01:05:13,349 --> 01:05:11,440
contacts andrews field the air force

1479
01:05:15,510 --> 01:05:13,359
installation had radar returns similar

1480
01:05:17,349 --> 01:05:15,520
to those on the caa radar

1481
01:05:19,349 --> 01:05:17,359
jets had been scrambled in an attempt to

1482
01:05:22,789 --> 01:05:19,359
make an intercept for the ufos

1483
01:05:24,549 --> 01:05:22,799
but they had not been successful

1484
01:05:27,190 --> 01:05:24,559
the week after the washington saucer

1485
01:05:29,109 --> 01:05:27,200
sighting was a mad chaotic one

1486
01:05:30,470 --> 01:05:29,119
the story was headlined from coast to

1487
01:05:33,190 --> 01:05:30,480
coast

1488
01:05:34,230 --> 01:05:33,200
as the pio man assigned to answer saucer

1489
01:05:36,069 --> 01:05:34,240
questions

1490
01:05:38,549 --> 01:05:36,079
i had been under an incessant barrage of

1491
01:05:42,069 --> 01:05:38,559
inquiries day and night by newsmen

1492
01:05:44,390 --> 01:05:42,079
i could get no sleep no rest at all

1493
01:05:46,549 --> 01:05:44,400
among other things the washington daily

1494
01:05:49,029 --> 01:05:46,559
news published an interview with harry g

1495
01:05:51,349 --> 01:05:49,039
barnes senior air traffic controller

1496
01:05:53,670 --> 01:05:51,359
civil aeronautics administration

1497
01:05:55,829 --> 01:05:53,680
barnes stated there is no other

1498
01:05:57,910 --> 01:05:55,839
conclusion i can reach but that for six

1499
01:05:59,109 --> 01:05:57,920
hours on the morning of the 20th of july

1500
01:06:01,109 --> 01:05:59,119
there were at least 10

1501
01:06:02,390 --> 01:06:01,119
unidentifiable objects moving above

1502
01:06:05,190 --> 01:06:02,400
washington

1503
01:06:07,750 --> 01:06:05,200
they were not ordinary aircraft i could

1504
01:06:09,829 --> 01:06:07,760
tell that by their movement on the scope

1505
01:06:12,150 --> 01:06:09,839
i can safely deduce that they perform

1506
01:06:13,349 --> 01:06:12,160
gyrations which no known aircraft could

1507
01:06:15,349 --> 01:06:13,359
perform

1508
01:06:17,109 --> 01:06:15,359
by this i mean that our scope showed

1509
01:06:19,510 --> 01:06:17,119
that they could make right angle turns

1510
01:06:21,510 --> 01:06:19,520
and complete reversals of flight

1511
01:06:23,750 --> 01:06:21,520
or in my opinion could any natural

1512
01:06:26,309 --> 01:06:23,760
phenomena account for these spots on our

1513
01:06:29,589 --> 01:06:28,470
then exactly a week later it really

1514
01:06:32,870 --> 01:06:29,599
broke loose

1515
01:06:35,029 --> 01:06:32,880
it was the night of july 1952

1516
01:06:43,390 --> 01:06:35,039
at 10 30 p.m i received a phone call

1517
01:06:54,710 --> 01:06:44,829
hello

1518
01:07:01,910 --> 01:06:56,150
radar is picking up unknowns over the

1519
01:07:05,829 --> 01:07:04,470
at 11 10 p.m major forte received a call

1520
01:07:07,510 --> 01:07:05,839
from lieutenant colonel thomas

1521
01:07:09,589 --> 01:07:07,520
air force intelligence duty officer at

1522
01:07:13,029 --> 01:07:09,599
the pentagon informing him of what was

1523
01:07:14,630 --> 01:07:13,039
going on at washington national

1524
01:07:16,069 --> 01:07:14,640
as i raced to the airport i kept

1525
01:07:17,510 --> 01:07:16,079
glancing up through the windshield

1526
01:07:35,900 --> 01:07:17,520
expecting to see the things

1527
01:07:45,510 --> 01:07:42,950
[Music]

1528
01:07:46,870 --> 01:07:45,520
chuck am i glad to see you they tell us

1529
01:07:47,670 --> 01:07:46,880
we need you're okay to get into the

1530
01:07:49,510 --> 01:07:47,680
radar room

1531
01:07:51,029 --> 01:07:49,520
you can't get in boys i'm sorry we want

1532
01:07:53,270 --> 01:07:51,039
some pictures of that scope al

1533
01:07:55,270 --> 01:07:53,280
you can't photograph the scope why not

1534
01:07:57,029 --> 01:07:55,280
it's under security measures classified

1535
01:07:58,390 --> 01:07:57,039
wavelength classified code names

1536
01:08:00,069 --> 01:07:58,400
here we are in the biggest story in

1537
01:08:02,069 --> 01:08:00,079
history and you're keeping us out

1538
01:08:04,470 --> 01:08:02,079
sorry but that's the way it's got to be

1539
01:08:06,549 --> 01:08:04,480
then we're going over your head al

1540
01:08:07,750 --> 01:08:06,559
colonel dick cyrils you can reach him at

1541
01:08:17,990 --> 01:08:07,760
metropolitan eight

1542
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:23,189
another one look at them go

1543
01:08:28,630 --> 01:08:24,470
one of them is an airline it's a

1544
01:08:32,390 --> 01:08:30,470
did you alert the air force i call air

1545
01:08:35,430 --> 01:08:32,400
defense command what'd they say

1546
01:08:39,430 --> 01:08:35,440
they're scrambling a couple of jets same

1547
01:08:40,789 --> 01:08:39,440
as last week

1548
01:08:43,510 --> 01:08:40,799
could this be caused by temperature

1549
01:08:44,630 --> 01:08:43,520
inversion inversion that is an inversion

1550
01:08:46,709 --> 01:08:44,640
and it's different than the ground

1551
01:08:48,390 --> 01:08:46,719
clutter we pick up did you call the air

1552
01:08:50,709 --> 01:08:48,400
force command posted pentagon

1553
01:08:56,789 --> 01:08:50,719
no we work through filter center i'd

1554
01:08:59,910 --> 01:08:58,390
get me the pentagon air force command

1555
01:09:02,229 --> 01:08:59,920
post

1556
01:09:03,269 --> 01:09:02,239
this is al chop i'm at washington

1557
01:09:04,829 --> 01:09:03,279
national

1558
01:09:06,390 --> 01:09:04,839
have you heard about the unknowns here

1559
01:09:07,990 --> 01:09:06,400
tonight we've been alerted there's a

1560
01:09:11,829 --> 01:09:08,000
blue flight on the way there right now

1561
01:09:15,829 --> 01:09:11,839
okay washington control to flight

1562
01:09:17,430 --> 01:09:15,839
639 come in flight 639 the washington

1563
01:09:20,470 --> 01:09:17,440
control over

1564
01:09:22,470 --> 01:09:20,480
washington control to flight 639

1565
01:09:23,510 --> 01:09:22,480
you're approaching traffic on your left

1566
01:09:26,470 --> 01:09:23,520
can you see it

1567
01:09:28,149 --> 01:09:26,480
over anders tower to washington control

1568
01:09:31,349 --> 01:09:28,159
we show an unknown just to the left of

1569
01:09:36,070 --> 01:09:34,229
flight 639 to washington control we can

1570
01:09:40,470 --> 01:09:36,080
see that traffic on our left

1571
01:09:44,309 --> 01:09:40,480
over washington control to flight 639

1572
01:09:47,110 --> 01:09:44,319
what does the traffic look like over

1573
01:09:47,669 --> 01:09:47,120
flight 639 to washington control it's a

1574
01:09:56,470 --> 01:09:47,679
light

1575
01:09:58,070 --> 01:09:56,480
can you make out what type of craft it

1576
01:10:04,860 --> 01:09:58,080
is over

1577
01:10:10,630 --> 01:10:07,510
[Music]

1578
01:10:14,950 --> 01:10:10,640
washington control to flight 639

1579
01:10:16,070 --> 01:10:14,960
roger out this is bluebird 1 to

1580
01:10:19,990 --> 01:10:16,080
washington control

1581
01:10:22,470 --> 01:10:20,000
come in the jets are coming on now

1582
01:10:25,189 --> 01:10:22,480
washington control the bluebird one

1583
01:10:28,630 --> 01:10:25,199
change course to 225 degrees

1584
01:10:31,110 --> 01:10:28,640
bluebird 2 holds your course over

1585
01:10:31,750 --> 01:10:31,120
bluebird one to washington control will

1586
01:10:34,870 --> 01:10:31,760
go

1587
01:10:42,550 --> 01:10:34,880
out bluebird 2 to washington control

1588
01:10:46,709 --> 01:10:45,030
andrew to washington control all our

1589
01:10:47,590 --> 01:10:46,719
unknowns vanished shortly after the jets

1590
01:10:49,350 --> 01:10:47,600
appeared

1591
01:10:50,630 --> 01:10:49,360
do you still have any of the unknowns

1592
01:10:53,350 --> 01:10:50,640
over

1593
01:10:54,790 --> 01:10:53,360
washington control to andrew's tower the

1594
01:10:58,149 --> 01:10:54,800
same thing happened here

1595
01:11:00,870 --> 01:10:58,159
out washington control to bluebird one

1596
01:11:02,470 --> 01:11:00,880
all the unknowns have disappeared you

1597
01:11:04,550 --> 01:11:02,480
say those returns are the same as those

1598
01:11:06,310 --> 01:11:04,560
you got last week the same as last week

1599
01:11:08,149 --> 01:11:06,320
at this point major fournette arrived

1600
01:11:08,790 --> 01:11:08,159
with a navy electronics intelligence

1601
01:11:12,149 --> 01:11:08,800
officer

1602
01:11:14,070 --> 01:11:12,159
gone like that as soon as the jets came

1603
01:11:16,630 --> 01:11:14,080
on the scope the unknowns left

1604
01:11:18,470 --> 01:11:16,640
bluebird 1 to washington control we're

1605
01:11:20,070 --> 01:11:18,480
going back to the base and refuel

1606
01:11:21,990 --> 01:11:20,080
can't see anything around up here

1607
01:11:25,030 --> 01:11:22,000
visibility is good over

1608
01:11:27,990 --> 01:11:25,040
washington control to bluebird 1 roger

1609
01:11:30,149 --> 01:11:28,000
out were they good returns good returns

1610
01:11:31,669 --> 01:11:30,159
as the set been checked for malfunctions

1611
01:11:34,310 --> 01:11:31,679
the radar equipment is in perfect

1612
01:11:37,750 --> 01:11:34,320
operating order

1613
01:11:38,709 --> 01:11:37,760
they're back andrew's tower to

1614
01:11:40,709 --> 01:11:38,719
washington control

1615
01:11:42,470 --> 01:11:40,719
they're back just as they just left our

1616
01:11:43,030 --> 01:11:42,480
scope they drop back in again out of

1617
01:11:46,709 --> 01:11:43,040
nowhere

1618
01:11:49,990 --> 01:11:46,719
you got them over those blips are solid

1619
01:11:51,910 --> 01:11:50,000
they're good and solid washington

1620
01:11:54,709 --> 01:11:51,920
control to andrews tower

1621
01:11:56,310 --> 01:11:54,719
same thing happened here give me the

1622
01:11:58,310 --> 01:11:56,320
pentagon command post

1623
01:11:59,350 --> 01:11:58,320
they're all over the scope two in the

1624
01:12:01,270 --> 01:11:59,360
northeast quadrant

1625
01:12:03,270 --> 01:12:01,280
four in southeast quadrant three in

1626
01:12:03,910 --> 01:12:03,280
southwest quadrant three in northwest

1627
01:12:06,229 --> 01:12:03,920
quadrant

1628
01:12:07,990 --> 01:12:06,239
over this is major fournette calling

1629
01:12:10,630 --> 01:12:08,000
from washington control

1630
01:12:12,149 --> 01:12:10,640
radar is picking up 14 unknowns again

1631
01:12:13,910 --> 01:12:12,159
the chief controller tells me the

1632
01:12:15,270 --> 01:12:13,920
unknowns disappeared from the scope as

1633
01:12:16,950 --> 01:12:15,280
soon as the jets came in

1634
01:12:19,430 --> 01:12:16,960
and were picked up again when the jets

1635
01:12:21,350 --> 01:12:19,440
left the navy electronics intelligence

1636
01:12:22,630 --> 01:12:21,360
officer confirms that the unknown blips

1637
01:12:24,630 --> 01:12:22,640
are good and solid

1638
01:12:27,510 --> 01:12:24,640
i recommend a couple more jets be sent

1639
01:12:29,590 --> 01:12:27,520
up immediately to investigate

1640
01:12:30,630 --> 01:12:29,600
yes sir andrews tower to washington

1641
01:12:32,870 --> 01:12:30,640
control

1642
01:12:34,310 --> 01:12:32,880
that's the way we had him one just moved

1643
01:12:35,510 --> 01:12:34,320
from the northwest quadrant into the

1644
01:12:37,990 --> 01:12:35,520
southeast quadrant

1645
01:12:40,390 --> 01:12:38,000
it stopped over the white house they're

1646
01:12:43,510 --> 01:12:40,400
scrambling a couple more jets

1647
01:12:44,630 --> 01:12:43,520
washington control to anders tower roger

1648
01:12:48,709 --> 01:12:44,640
on the change

1649
01:12:51,590 --> 01:12:48,719
now it's moving back do you get it over

1650
01:12:53,830 --> 01:12:51,600
it's back in the northwest quadrant over

1651
01:12:56,709 --> 01:12:53,840
washington control to andrew's tower

1652
01:12:57,430 --> 01:12:56,719
roger we've got a scramble out what are

1653
01:12:59,830 --> 01:12:57,440
those

1654
01:13:01,350 --> 01:12:59,840
slight temperature inversion you can see

1655
01:13:04,550 --> 01:13:01,360
the difference in the returns

1656
01:13:07,110 --> 01:13:04,560
one strong the other weak these unknowns

1657
01:13:09,430 --> 01:13:07,120
are solid objects

1658
01:13:10,870 --> 01:13:09,440
red dog one to washington control we're

1659
01:13:14,709 --> 01:13:10,880
approaching the area

1660
01:13:18,790 --> 01:13:14,719
over washington control to red dog 2

1661
01:13:21,590 --> 01:13:18,800
changed course to 265 degrees

1662
01:13:24,149 --> 01:13:21,600
washington control to red dog one

1663
01:13:29,669 --> 01:13:24,159
changed course to 114 degrees

1664
01:13:33,590 --> 01:13:29,679
over red dog 1 to washington control

1665
01:13:35,189 --> 01:13:33,600
out about 4 30 a.m major fornay received

1666
01:13:37,750 --> 01:13:35,199
a long-distance telephone call from

1667
01:13:39,430 --> 01:13:37,760
robert gina of life magazine

1668
01:13:40,870 --> 01:13:39,440
he wanted permission for his people to

1669
01:13:43,270 --> 01:13:40,880
interview the pilots of the first

1670
01:13:44,870 --> 01:13:43,280
scramble at newcastle

1671
01:13:46,709 --> 01:13:44,880
major forde decided that under the

1672
01:13:48,149 --> 01:13:46,719
circumstances it would be wise for him

1673
01:13:50,550 --> 01:13:48,159
to take the call

1674
01:13:53,030 --> 01:13:50,560
washington control to red dog one

1675
01:13:56,630 --> 01:13:53,040
changed cars to 315 degrees

1676
01:14:00,390 --> 01:13:56,640
over red dog one to washington control

1677
01:14:03,830 --> 01:14:00,400
will go

1678
01:14:07,669 --> 01:14:03,840
control to red dog one come in

1679
01:14:10,310 --> 01:14:07,679
red dog one to washington control over

1680
01:14:11,910 --> 01:14:10,320
andrews tower to washington control our

1681
01:14:15,350 --> 01:14:11,920
scope shows red dog one is right in the

1682
01:14:18,149 --> 01:14:15,360
middle of the unknowns

1683
01:14:19,750 --> 01:14:18,159
washington control to red dog one can

1684
01:14:20,630 --> 01:14:19,760
you see anything on either side or to

1685
01:14:26,470 --> 01:14:20,640
the front of you

1686
01:14:29,510 --> 01:14:26,480
over red dog one to washington control

1687
01:14:30,180 --> 01:14:29,520
can't see anything

1688
01:14:41,590 --> 01:14:30,190
wait a minute

1689
01:14:50,310 --> 01:14:41,600
[Music]

1690
01:14:59,750 --> 01:14:56,550
yeah i see him

1691
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:06,390
they're all around me

1692
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:14,149
they're moving in on me

1693
01:15:30,550 --> 01:15:24,950
they're coming closer

1694
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:43,030
they're coming right at me

1695
01:15:57,110 --> 01:15:52,310
hold it

1696
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:01,430
i'm at maximum speed

1697
01:16:01,440 --> 01:16:08,070
they're going away

1698
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:22,220
they're gone i can't see them

1699
01:16:33,430 --> 01:16:30,070
[Music]

1700
01:16:35,189 --> 01:16:33,440
red dog one to washington control

1701
01:16:36,470 --> 01:16:35,199
i've been given permission to return to

1702
01:16:40,149 --> 01:16:36,480
base

1703
01:16:44,630 --> 01:16:40,159
over washington control to red dog one

1704
01:16:46,229 --> 01:16:44,640
roger out at six am that same morning i

1705
01:16:48,470 --> 01:16:46,239
called lieutenant william patterson the

1706
01:16:50,550 --> 01:16:48,480
pilot of red dog one who had made visual

1707
01:16:52,149 --> 01:16:50,560
contact with the unknowns

1708
01:16:55,189 --> 01:16:52,159
he could add nothing more to what he had

1709
01:16:56,950 --> 01:16:55,199
reported to us over the intercom

1710
01:16:59,590 --> 01:16:56,960
later that same morning the white house

1711
01:17:01,350 --> 01:16:59,600
placed a call to the pentagon

1712
01:17:02,790 --> 01:17:01,360
captain rupault who had flown in from

1713
01:17:04,630 --> 01:17:02,800
wright-patterson and who was only

1714
01:17:07,110 --> 01:17:04,640
beginning his analysis of the sighting

1715
01:17:08,950 --> 01:17:07,120
got the call from the white house yes

1716
01:17:11,110 --> 01:17:08,960
sir it appears have been caused by

1717
01:17:13,430 --> 01:17:11,120
temperature inversion

1718
01:17:14,830 --> 01:17:13,440
yes sir we've had cases where radar

1719
01:17:16,709 --> 01:17:14,840
blips have been caused by temperature

1720
01:17:18,550 --> 01:17:16,719
inversion

1721
01:17:19,910 --> 01:17:18,560
this was captain rupaul's report to

1722
01:17:22,149 --> 01:17:19,920
president truman

1723
01:17:23,830 --> 01:17:22,159
but captain rupell had not been present

1724
01:17:25,590 --> 01:17:23,840
at the washington sighting

1725
01:17:27,430 --> 01:17:25,600
it wasn't until later that he learned

1726
01:17:30,709 --> 01:17:27,440
there had been both visual and radar

1727
01:17:32,470 --> 01:17:30,719
contact with the unknowns on that night

1728
01:17:33,910 --> 01:17:32,480
on monday morning an avalanche of calls

1729
01:17:37,830 --> 01:17:33,920
from newspapers throughout the nation

1730
01:17:41,750 --> 01:17:40,070
the relentless pressure continued we

1731
01:17:43,590 --> 01:17:41,760
admitted radar contacts from the three

1732
01:17:46,870 --> 01:17:43,600
surrounding airfields

1733
01:17:48,790 --> 01:17:46,880
one of the saucers first appeared 9 pm

1734
01:17:49,990 --> 01:17:48,800
how long were they under observation 6

1735
01:17:52,790 --> 01:17:50,000
hours

1736
01:17:56,830 --> 01:17:52,800
how many were there 14 could the pilots

1737
01:18:01,960 --> 01:17:58,310
no

1738
01:18:02,230 --> 01:18:01,970
[Music]

1739
01:18:12,550 --> 01:18:02,240
[Applause]

1740
01:18:15,750 --> 01:18:13,990
in an interview which appeared in the

1741
01:18:17,830 --> 01:18:15,760
washington times herald lieutenant

1742
01:18:19,270 --> 01:18:17,840
patterson pilot of red dog one

1743
01:18:21,430 --> 01:18:19,280
said he concentrated on one of the

1744
01:18:23,350 --> 01:18:21,440
bright lights but it outran him

1745
01:18:25,750 --> 01:18:23,360
i tried to make contact with the bogeys

1746
01:18:28,310 --> 01:18:25,760
below 1000 feet patterson said

1747
01:18:29,590 --> 01:18:28,320
i saw several bright lights i chased a

1748
01:18:32,310 --> 01:18:29,600
single bright light

1749
01:18:34,310 --> 01:18:32,320
i was at my maximum speed i ceased

1750
01:18:36,149 --> 01:18:34,320
chasing it because i saw no chance of

1751
01:18:37,590 --> 01:18:36,159
overtaking it

1752
01:18:39,430 --> 01:18:37,600
under the insistent demands from the

1753
01:18:40,709 --> 01:18:39,440
nation's press and the accumulating

1754
01:18:42,149 --> 01:18:40,719
pressure of the public

1755
01:18:44,229 --> 01:18:42,159
the chief of staff set up a press

1756
01:18:46,229 --> 01:18:44,239
conference at the pentagon

1757
01:18:48,310 --> 01:18:46,239
i was present when general sanford spoke

1758
01:18:51,270 --> 01:18:48,320
for the newsreel cameras

1759
01:18:53,669 --> 01:18:51,280
air force interest in this problem has

1760
01:18:54,709 --> 01:18:53,679
been due to our feeling of an obligation

1761
01:19:00,630 --> 01:18:54,719
to

1762
01:19:03,510 --> 01:19:00,640
ability anything in the air

1763
01:19:06,470 --> 01:19:03,520
that may have the possibility of threats

1764
01:19:10,950 --> 01:19:06,480
or minutes to the united states

1765
01:19:13,110 --> 01:19:10,960
in pursuit of this obligation since 1947

1766
01:19:15,750 --> 01:19:13,120
we have received and analyzed between

1767
01:19:17,990 --> 01:19:15,760
one and two thousand reports

1768
01:19:19,669 --> 01:19:18,000
that have come to us from all kinds of

1769
01:19:21,990 --> 01:19:19,679
sources

1770
01:19:23,189 --> 01:19:22,000
of this great massive reports we have

1771
01:19:26,390 --> 01:19:23,199
been able

1772
01:19:27,510 --> 01:19:26,400
adequately to explain the great bulk of

1773
01:19:34,070 --> 01:19:27,520
them

1774
01:19:36,310 --> 01:19:34,080
hoaxes

1775
01:19:37,830 --> 01:19:36,320
as erroneously identified friendly

1776
01:19:40,709 --> 01:19:37,840
aircraft

1777
01:19:41,750 --> 01:19:40,719
as meteorological or electronic

1778
01:19:45,189 --> 01:19:41,760
phenomena

1779
01:19:46,950 --> 01:19:45,199
or as light aberration

1780
01:19:50,390 --> 01:19:46,960
however there have been a certain

1781
01:19:52,470 --> 01:19:50,400
percentage of this volume of reports

1782
01:19:53,910 --> 01:19:52,480
that have been made by credible

1783
01:19:57,669 --> 01:19:53,920
observers

1784
01:20:00,310 --> 01:19:57,679
of relatively incredible things

1785
01:20:00,790 --> 01:20:00,320
it is this group of observations that we

1786
01:20:04,709 --> 01:20:00,800
now

1787
01:20:06,070 --> 01:20:04,719
are attempting to resolve we have as a

1788
01:20:09,270 --> 01:20:06,080
date come to only one

1789
01:20:11,110 --> 01:20:09,280
firm conclusion with respect to this

1790
01:20:14,550 --> 01:20:11,120
remaining percentage

1791
01:20:18,870 --> 01:20:14,560
and that is that it does not contain

1792
01:20:20,870 --> 01:20:18,880
any pattern of purpose or of consistency

1793
01:20:25,430 --> 01:20:20,880
that we can relate with any to any

1794
01:20:28,709 --> 01:20:28,310
we can say that the recent sightings are

1795
01:20:31,430 --> 01:20:28,719
in

1796
01:20:32,470 --> 01:20:31,440
no way connected with any secret

1797
01:20:38,229 --> 01:20:32,480
development

1798
01:20:42,550 --> 01:20:40,790
when i left the pentagon that evening

1799
01:20:44,470 --> 01:20:42,560
general sanford's words kept running

1800
01:20:46,390 --> 01:20:44,480
through my mind

1801
01:20:47,420 --> 01:20:46,400
credible observers of relatively

1802
01:20:56,790 --> 01:20:47,430
incredible things

1803
01:20:58,390 --> 01:20:56,800
[Music]

1804
01:21:00,629 --> 01:20:58,400
the theories of the skeptics could not

1805
01:21:02,629 --> 01:21:00,639
stand up to the actual experiences of

1806
01:21:05,590 --> 01:21:02,639
high-ranking military personnel

1807
01:21:07,510 --> 01:21:05,600
radar experts airline pilots and other

1808
01:21:09,189 --> 01:21:07,520
responsible witnesses referred to by

1809
01:21:12,870 --> 01:21:09,199
general sanford as

1810
01:21:14,870 --> 01:21:12,880
credible observers i started to walk

1811
01:21:17,510 --> 01:21:14,880
through the streets of washington

1812
01:21:19,510 --> 01:21:17,520
the words remaining with me credible

1813
01:21:20,950 --> 01:21:19,520
observers of relatively incredible

1814
01:21:23,270 --> 01:21:20,960
things

1815
01:21:25,030 --> 01:21:23,280
i recalled when i first joined the

1816
01:21:27,110 --> 01:21:25,040
project at amc

1817
01:21:29,430 --> 01:21:27,120
how i regarded with disbelief the whole

1818
01:21:31,910 --> 01:21:29,440
subject of flying saucers

1819
01:21:32,950 --> 01:21:31,920
but piece by piece the evidence had

1820
01:21:35,590 --> 01:21:32,960
crystallized

1821
01:21:38,229 --> 01:21:35,600
until now in my opinion there was no

1822
01:21:41,110 --> 01:21:38,239
doubt as to their existence

1823
01:21:41,990 --> 01:21:41,120
now so far as i was concerned it was no

1824
01:21:43,669 --> 01:21:42,000
longer a question

1825
01:21:46,229 --> 01:21:43,679
of whether or not there were unknown

1826
01:21:48,310 --> 01:21:46,239
objects flying in our atmosphere

1827
01:21:49,750 --> 01:21:48,320
for me the only questions that remained

1828
01:21:52,310 --> 01:21:49,760
were

1829
01:21:53,100 --> 01:21:52,320
what are these objects where do they

1830
01:21:54,390 --> 01:21:53,110
come from

1831
01:21:56,070 --> 01:21:54,400
[Music]

1832
01:21:58,470 --> 01:21:56,080
to me the evidence indicated

1833
01:22:00,310 --> 01:21:58,480
intelligence behind their control

1834
01:22:01,830 --> 01:22:00,320
and by now the belief that their source

1835
01:22:10,060 --> 01:22:01,840
was interplanetary

1836
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:10,070
was no longer incredible

1837
01:22:39,140 --> 01:22:38,250
[Music]

1838
01:23:42,070 --> 01:22:39,150
[Applause]

1839
01:23:46,149 --> 01:23:44,310
this is the montana film projected

1840
01:23:48,390 --> 01:23:46,159
exactly as it was photographed

1841
01:23:53,189 --> 01:23:48,400
the objects are moving against a 25 to

1842
01:23:57,270 --> 01:23:55,270
this is the film in double frame or slow

1843
01:23:58,950 --> 01:23:57,280
motion

1844
01:24:00,830 --> 01:23:58,960
a slight bounce in the movement of the

1845
01:24:02,310 --> 01:24:00,840
objects as well as the tower is

1846
01:24:05,430 --> 01:24:02,320
perceptible

1847
01:24:08,629 --> 01:24:05,440
this is due to the handheld camera

1848
01:24:09,910 --> 01:24:08,639
the film analyzed frame by frame shows

1849
01:24:10,870 --> 01:24:09,920
the movement of the objects to be

1850
01:24:15,189 --> 01:24:10,880
horizontal

1851
01:24:18,470 --> 01:24:17,510
we will now vary the action and size of

1852
01:24:20,629 --> 01:24:18,480
the objects

1853
01:24:24,229 --> 01:24:20,639
and also stop the action from time to

1854
01:24:27,830 --> 01:24:26,310
we have just made a jump cut in the film

1855
01:24:35,590 --> 01:24:27,840
to an enlarged size

1856
01:24:39,030 --> 01:24:37,669
you are now seeing the objects exactly

1857
01:24:47,270 --> 01:24:39,040
as they were photographed

1858
01:24:50,470 --> 01:24:49,350
analysis reveals that the objects are

1859
01:24:55,590 --> 01:24:50,480
not balloons

1860
01:24:59,669 --> 01:24:57,510
the images are very different from those

1861
01:25:02,870 --> 01:24:59,679
produced by any kind of birds at any

1862
01:25:06,790 --> 01:25:05,270
the shape brightness speed rectilinear

1863
01:25:09,430 --> 01:25:06,800
path steady motion

1864
01:25:11,430 --> 01:25:09,440
and separation rule out various forms of

1865
01:25:16,470 --> 01:25:11,440
optical atmospheric mirages

1866
01:25:20,709 --> 01:25:18,550
comprehensive analysis has eliminated

1867
01:25:24,550 --> 01:25:20,719
meteors and other known natural

1868
01:25:28,470 --> 01:25:26,550
the possibility of airplane reflection

1869
01:25:32,550 --> 01:25:28,480
has been carefully studied

1870
01:25:38,950 --> 01:25:34,149
this is the utah film as it was

1871
01:25:43,110 --> 01:25:40,870
the image structure and maneuvers

1872
01:25:47,669 --> 01:25:43,120
definitely eliminate any kind of known

1873
01:25:50,629 --> 01:25:49,030
this is where chief photographer

1874
01:25:52,390 --> 01:25:50,639
newhouse and his excitement changed

1875
01:25:54,070 --> 01:25:52,400
exposure

1876
01:25:55,750 --> 01:25:54,080
he believed that by changing density and

1877
01:25:59,510 --> 01:25:55,760
giving the film more contrast he could

1878
01:26:02,950 --> 01:26:01,030
the single object that reversed its

1879
01:26:07,270 --> 01:26:02,960
course

1880
01:26:10,870 --> 01:26:09,030
now we study the action of one section

1881
01:26:14,629 --> 01:26:10,880
of the film

1882
01:26:14,639 --> 01:26:18,550
we move in

1883
01:26:23,030 --> 01:26:21,270
within a five mile range aircraft could

1884
01:26:25,350 --> 01:26:23,040
be determined

1885
01:26:27,430 --> 01:26:25,360
in excess of five miles the speeds are

1886
01:26:31,270 --> 01:26:27,440
greater than aircraft can achieve

1887
01:26:34,070 --> 01:26:31,280
except in straight-line speed runs

1888
01:26:34,390 --> 01:26:34,080
the movement here follows an elliptical

1889
01:26:38,550 --> 01:26:34,400
or

1890
01:26:40,310 --> 01:26:38,560
circular pattern microscopic examination

1891
01:26:41,350 --> 01:26:40,320
reveals that the objects are well

1892
01:26:43,110 --> 01:26:41,360
focused

1893
01:26:44,950 --> 01:26:43,120
their size varies from one-sixth to

1894
01:26:47,510 --> 01:26:44,960
one-tenth the size of the moon

1895
01:26:49,189 --> 01:26:47,520
as it appears to the naked eye their

1896
01:26:50,950 --> 01:26:49,199
form is circular and sometimes

1897
01:26:53,030 --> 01:26:50,960
elliptical

1898
01:26:56,149 --> 01:26:53,040
this fits the commonly used flying

1899
01:26:59,669 --> 01:26:57,830
observe the object in the upper left

1900
01:27:01,669 --> 01:26:59,679
corner

1901
01:27:03,350 --> 01:27:01,679
we move in to study the action the

1902
01:27:03,990 --> 01:27:03,360
object upper left will go out of frame

1903
01:27:12,790 --> 01:27:04,000
on widescreen

1904
01:27:16,830 --> 01:27:14,310
observe the motion of the two objects

1905
01:27:27,110 --> 01:27:16,840
upper right as we rock them back and

1906
01:27:30,950 --> 01:27:29,270
now we move over and up on the frame to

1907
01:27:35,590 --> 01:27:30,960
make a closer study of the object in the

1908
01:27:39,750 --> 01:27:38,390
examine this object closely compared

1909
01:27:41,590 --> 01:27:39,760
with those objects you saw in the

1910
01:27:43,910 --> 01:27:41,600
montana film

1911
01:27:45,510 --> 01:27:43,920
these films were taken approximately two

1912
01:27:52,229 --> 01:27:45,520
years apart

1913
01:27:56,950 --> 01:27:54,790
we drop back to the original perspective

1914
01:27:58,149 --> 01:27:56,960
and resume

1915
01:28:03,910 --> 01:27:58,159
now the section of the film where

1916
01:28:07,669 --> 01:28:05,430
weather conditions together with the

1917
01:28:12,830 --> 01:28:07,679
persistence and motion of the formations

1918
01:28:16,950 --> 01:28:14,950
mirages

1919
01:28:19,030 --> 01:28:16,960
photogrammetric experiments have shown

1920
01:28:24,070 --> 01:28:19,040
that the images cannot be associated

1921
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:27,430
stop

1922
01:28:27,440 --> 01:28:34,149
now forward again

1923
01:28:34,159 --> 01:28:41,110
stop

1924
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:48,149
we drop back to original perspective

1925
01:28:55,350 --> 01:28:49,990
now once again and for the last time the

1926
01:29:01,189 --> 01:28:57,350
the objects cannot be associated with

1927
01:29:12,390 --> 01:29:01,199
any known balloon observations

1928
01:29:16,070 --> 01:29:14,470
the motion picture you have just seen is

1929
01:29:18,950 --> 01:29:16,080
authentic

1930
01:29:20,470 --> 01:29:18,960
it is substantiated by documentation

1931
01:29:21,669 --> 01:29:20,480
eyewitness accounts supported by

1932
01:29:24,870 --> 01:29:21,679
affidavits

1933
01:29:26,629 --> 01:29:24,880
and official government reports the

1934
01:29:28,950 --> 01:29:26,639
evidence has been presented to you with

1935
01:29:31,750 --> 01:29:28,960
integrity and objectivity

1936
01:29:33,189 --> 01:29:31,760
to establish the fact that unidentified

1937
01:29:36,830 --> 01:29:33,199
flying objects

1938
01:29:38,070 --> 01:29:36,840
commonly known as flying saucers do

1939
01:29:40,790 --> 01:29:38,080
exist

1940
01:29:41,990 --> 01:29:40,800
some kind of flying objects have been

1941
01:29:43,510 --> 01:29:42,000
photographed in the sky

1942
01:29:45,590 --> 01:29:43,520
[Music]

1943
01:29:47,669 --> 01:29:45,600
if they cannot be identified as objects

1944
01:29:51,990 --> 01:29:47,679
known to man

1945
01:29:54,950 --> 01:29:52,000
what are they if they are not man-made

1946
01:29:56,629 --> 01:29:54,960
who made them if they are not from this